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Meninist? Is this where we are now? Men going out in protest to fight against the roar of women burning their bras and what's not.
Look at the types of articles I'm reduced to commenting on for the next few days.
Remarkable.
I dont think feminists including male feminists would want actual men to start fighting them.
That would just add fuel to their fire. Although I did not literally mean coming to blows with each other. Just the term "meninist" is crazy and men going out to protest for mens rights, it is insane to me, that's all.
Womens rights is an actual fight that generally still needs to be waged. The current woman's rights movement, or at least the one making the most noise is more interested in saying that they are under, or misrepresented in media, and as such, somehow should be considered more in media which may or may not be aimed at them. This has cascaded into a series of changes within media as a whole, which I'll just sum up, since we all know what I'm talking about, by the colloquial term, "going woke". (No discussion on if that's right or wrong, that's not the point).
This Meninist thing, is just a backlash to the above, because some men, or groups of people who may have liked what they were getting before, and now are having this stuff become a noticeable thing within the stuff they enjoy. It isn't about mens rights or suffrage, because realistically, there isn't much that men need to fight for there. Not to say that there aren't anecdotal instances of discrimination where women are given preference over men, but overall, it's not a huge societal thing as of yet that needs to be addressed, because the scales haven't tipped in the opposite direction.
Unfortunately though, the current women's rights movement that gets the most attention isn't so much about equal treatment, but exceptional treatment and representation. By that I mean it's about culture and society adjusting to the idea that women are supposed to be represented as better and capable at every turn, and any and all discretion which may say otherwise, whether fictional, or factual, need to be ostracized with the upmost vitriol, with the only remedy being absolute concession to their demands.
I don't take these "meninist" any more seriously than the so called feminist I often call out, and end up being called or implied being sexist for. I don't take them less seriously either, because I don't take either of them seriously. But the reason they exist is because there are people who are just tired of feeling bullied and treated as if they can't have an opposing opinion without being shamed into compliance with arbitrary demands, which aren't even consistent among the group they're railing against.
My view on this is skewed, because I am married to what I would consider an actual feminist who is working towards real womans rights in a productive way, and I have great respect for her, and the work of those she does these things with. I have no problem supporting them and even helping where I can, because I believe in what they're doing, because it's the right thing to do. What I see what's considered a feminist today demanding and talking about isn't about positive change though, it's making demands, because that's what they want, in areas which are ultimately meaningless....such as fictional creative work. Then you couple this with them attaching themselves to every single transgression, whether intentional or by happenstance, and you can't just help but tune them out so when something real comes along, you don't even bother listening anymore. The current crop of feminist have made people more defensive than ever over such matters, and it makes it much harder for those doing positive things, in effective ways to be heard, because these selfish a**holes think that because the internet exists, and some people pay attention to them, that they should have everyone hear what they have to say, and worse, have everyone do what they say.
Now, when you consider that meninist feel they are being victimized by feminist...can you really say they aren't? How many times have men been shamed since Sarkeesian brought all this stuff into gaming because they don't just outright agree with the rantings of some random person on the internet? Just because they roll their eyes at the absurdity of it all. Just because we say, "Hey, I like my games, made for a predominately male audience, to have themes which predominately appeal to me....as a male". I don't think that's so much to ask for, without having a bevy of people accept it without trying to imply that I'm sexist, misogynist, or as all this started....that I just don't matter anymore. All of gamergate was started, and subsequently derailed due to being told we didn't matter anymore. The consumer...just doesn't matter. Tell me how that is in any way right, when video games weren't perpetuating or promoting any wrong of society in a way that is harmful within the context of the game itself. How many times have we all been pigeon holed into this blanket group of people who are either with them, or against them, and if you're against them, you are a terrible person?
If you look at it, it's what's happening. They are being victimized. It's not so bad for most of us, as I feel many people on forums bring more melodrama into it to attach it to them personally, but it is happening, and in some cases, people's lives have been negatively effected by these people. Some feminist get the same treatment from the other side, so it isn't a one way street, but for the most part, many people just want to enjoy something without all the politics attached, and it seems we have way too much politics attached to things like movies or games where it doesn't need to be. It's not on the same level the way women have been victimized historically, but realistically, most of what's being fought for nowadays isn't about actual victimization, but rather, exclusion in things that aren't made for women to begin with....generally speaking.
Despite all this, I don't feel that there really needs to be a movement by men to fight against it. It's not going to achieve anything, because neither side really listens to the other, and the "outrage culture" is being recognized more and more, which only, as you say, "adds fuel to the fire". We're basically just feeding the validity of the arguments, becoming a sort of self fulfilling prophecy, which neither side will take accountability for, as there is no chicken or egg, just "I'm right, you're wrong, and it doesn't matter if we could affect real change by looking past the problem, and working towards a common solution, which may involve me having to compromise my rather ill conceived beliefs that I learned from other people on the internet, and I must be right, because there are a few people who agree with me, hence, validating me even more".
Great post and I can agree with much of what you've said. My amazement is in learning that there is now such a movement as "meninist".
A man who either has the mental capacity of a 12 year old or a 40+ year old who can’t get laid and is really bitter.
Or as the article states a man who has been fucked over both financially and emotionally, sometimes physically by 1 or many woman and the bias court system.
@mogwaii
Yeah that’s what I said.
I’ve had my heart broken by women to. Don’t see me being a “Meninist”
Officially...if you want to call it something official....men who feel they've been victimized by the current women's rights movement in the way it's done.
Can you say that men aren't victimized by it? Can you honestly say that any man who doesn't 100% agree with the beliefs or demands of these vocal people aren't constantly shamed into complacency, or in some cases, have their lives or livelihoods ruined through targeted campaigns because they happen to have disagreed with something, or made some comment which some random person took offense to?
I know many in forums may feel victimized despite never having been directly targeted by these people, but just look at what you're doing now. Calling anyone who may be tired of all of this absurdity an idiot, or a 40 year old who is having trouble finding a sexual partner.
Tell me....if I said that about some of these feminist, or something contextually on the same level, would that be alright....or would I be accused of victimizing them? Given what i've seen, I'd say the answer is no.
What you say is the kinds of things we may actually hear from a feminist if we don't agree with them. It's actually quite a common retort, because it doesn't address the actual argument, ignores having to address any dissent, and derails conversation in a way that makes it ineffective.
I don't think I need a movement to say that I'm tired of the nonsense, and I do say I'm tired of it often....for many reasons. None of it actually has to do with more than the fact I'd rather all this stuff just go away and the conversation go back to what it was before all this started, which was productive, and meaningful, and things that did happen were natural and not done as an attempt to capitalize on a seemingly large market just teeming at the fringe of society waiting to buy into something, but here to now never felt any connection because there was nothing they could relate to. I believe inclusion has become more of a joke nowadays, and done more for commercial gain, rather than any real attempt to be inclusive because it works within the context of the media itself.
Then there's the whole outrage culture nature of it all which is a whole other level where real people have been negatively affected over what often is the most trivial of things.
I think the meninist movement has some validity to it's arguments, but overall, it'll be ineffective, and comes across as silly as I don't feel that the current crop of feminism has reached the critical mass where more than anecdotal instances can be pointed to to show a real cultural shift towards the victimization of men, and society as a whole certainly hasn't shifted to that, despite what it may seem like on the internet at times.
A beautiful Sarah Michelle Gellar made time to sign a fan's 'Once More With Feeling' vinyl after doing an interview at SiriusXM in Manhattan, New York.
i grew up on buffy >.< although I never watched the season finale oddly enough lol . . .
and I believe angel was the overall better show >.>
Buffy should be number one...always. In my heart...that's who I see her as. The next one though would have been Ringer....I've really gotten to like that show. It's not getting a lot of high ratings but it's really good. I'm just glad to see her back on tv.
She hasn't changed a whole lot.
No...she still looks the same just a little more mature...that's all.
Cruel Intentions is my favorite role of hers.
I see her as. The next one though would have been Ringer....I've really gotten to like that show.
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