"its nice to have the performance for those of us who are willing to pay for it and have it support our upgraded electronics."

Yeah I own it on PC...see how that works?

Does that make the PC version better than the X1X version?

According to you it does.

Not to me, but by your standard it does.

If you ain't first you're last seems to be your mantra. Does gaming in last place feel okay? Do you still enjoy the games? Well you cannot hide under a rock and pretend the PC doesn't exist. The PC. You know, the platform that gets every 1st party MS game and what used to be called Xbox exclusives. And they look better. And will only get better looking as time passes. So how does that feel? See how ridiculous it is to talk about gaming in that aspect?

Do you have any examples of games with better frame rate on One X? As far as I've heard, I've seen nothing but improvements to resolution with the frame rate held constant. You're not going from 1080p/30fps to 4K/60fps. At least, in no examples I've ever heard of. Do you have any support for that claim?

Apparently it doesn't matter now, how convenient. Meanwhile history has shown consumers want better products. Otherwise we would all be watching movies on VHS still.

@Godmars290
"No. Many if not all in the Sony were saying it didn't matter"

Many loved the improvements when The Last of Us remaster came out, now many, if not all in the Sony don't care? Sony announced 20% of PS4 sales are for the more expensive Pro so don't tell people nobody cares. Why are you posting here if you don't care in a topic about better resolution?

@freshslicepizza:
"Many loved the improvements when The Last of Us remaster came out"

Those were general performance improvements, frame-rates as well as graphics, from the PS3 to the PS4. And I for one didn't care about it because it was the start of the remastering craze. When general remakes across the industry became accepted.

"Sony announced 20% of PS4 sales are for the more expensive Pro so don't tell people nobody cares."

No one does care. No one talks about Pro sales and the only real reason anyone - you - talks about XBX is belief that somehow a similar 20% boost is going to help a system that's likely half of its own numbers behind.

"Why are you posting here if you don't care in a topic about better resolution?"

I've been tired of the better graphics argument since early PS3/360. Seen it and the likes of MTs only take away from gaming as my voice becomes ever more diminished and outnumbered.

Better to ask why, as you wait and hope for games to prove and justify graphic increases which make 1TB drives inadequate, why are you?

@Godmars290

If i remember correctly it was the Sony fanboys that were constantly making fun of the Cloud. And constantly rubbing it on the MS fanbase faces when games looked crappier on the Xbox One. But now that the tables have turned power doesnt matter anymore and the games are the same thing on both consoles. Bunch of Hypocrites.

Godmars29
"And I for one didn't care about it because it was the start of the remastering craze. When general remakes across the industry became accepted."

Accepted? Why are you talking like Yoda. People want better performance, just because you don't care doesn't mean anything in the grander scheme of things. So unless you like hearing yourself I guess your done then.

"No one"

You do not equate to everyone, sorry. Sure the mainstream will continue to buy the cheaper options but the fact is both Sony and Microsoft see a viable market. As does AMD and nVidia.

"Better to ask why, as you wait and hope for games to prove and justify graphic increases which make 1TB drives inadequate, why"

The Nintendo Switch can't even store one game, do you always go off on tangents? Nobody here is asking for your approval or justification. If you are happy with your base system then so be it but again you see to warrant attention. Nothing wrong with having options out there, no need to be bitter.

@PFFT:
"constantly making fun of the Cloud."

Considering that nothing major has been done with it, the expectation was that it would improve Xbox games by a factor of 50, your point? No other title has used cloud servers and as the flagship title for it MS have backed off from claims for CD3.

@freshslicepizza:
"no need to be bitter."

Not a COD/FPS fan, not really into first-person perspective in general, nor am I into community/multiplayer. And I've only seen focus on those trends, plus the iOS P2W mentality take away from what use to be traditional gaming. Less options than come at extra costs.

So when most Xbox I've been dumb enough to comment with can't see past their own console, how a company like MS still has a major impact on gaming while essentially being in third, repeatedly failing to gain industry traction in the industry because of moves like Kinect and always online, don't tell me not to be bitter. You and like-minded others - on both and all sides - are so closed minded, little more than lemmings, you don't even understand what I'm talking about.

(I had to get that out at least once...)

Edit:
"And constantly rubbing it on the MS fanbase faces when games looked crappier on the Xbox One."

Cause that BS didn't start when 360-build games were compared to PS3 sub-builds, then died off or switched as devs learned how to compensate.

Again, this graphics BS has been going on since OG Xbox, PS2 and, Gamecube and Dreamcast and is still utter s**t.