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Control Ultimate Edition disrespects fans

GN writes: "Original players paid $60 for Control, plus another $30 for a season pass. Original fans of the franchise have coughed up $90 for the same content that new fans will now be getting with a $40 purchase – but those original fans won’t get the next-gen upgrade."

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-Foxtrot1350d ago

Hmm. Human music...I like it.

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Thunder_G0d_Bane1349d ago

This is why you guys need to migrate to PC cause you get the best version of these third party games with 60fps+

I only play exclusives on my PS4/switch everything else goes straight on my PC.

sprinterboy1349d ago (Edited 1349d ago )

Did you get a free Blu Ray disk when another starwars edition remaster came out with some new bare bones extras? No you didn't
Why is it we don't mind buying multiple versions of films and anniversary editions etc yet when it's games it should be free?
Granted I think they should offer a £10 upgrade price or something to existing owners as a good gesture but they don't have too? It's a game with new features and upgrades which take money and time?
Would you as a business owner pay your staff knowing your giving a free upgrade and getting nothing in return apart from a few gamers who never picked it up?
If you haven't played control by now, chances are you won't? So they have to get the money back somewhere for the time and effert there staff have put in?

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philm871349d ago

Thunder - I liked the idea of pc gaming, but it's just been a pain for me. Had too many issues trying to get games to run properly even though my PC is comfortably powerful enough. For example I can run the Division 2 on high graphics, but I get jumpy spikes in the frame rate, which happen exactly the same all the way down to the lowest graphics. Much prefer the plug in and play nature of consoles, particularly as I don't have masses of free time due to the kids. Lucky enough that the main reason for the PC is for work so I don't feel like it's wasted money.
Back to the topic at hand, why are people upset that they're not getting a free upgrade for a game that's almost a year old?

Petebloodyonion1349d ago

@sprinterboy
Did you pay your original Starwars Bluray 60$ + Dlc 50$?
Movie discs price usually stays consistent while games drop sharply.
Also, movies make money from the initial release in theater while Movie makes the initial money from a hardcore fan of the franchise.

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badz1491348d ago

suddenly this game has fans? LOL

I remember very fondly that people were calling this a flop

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ziggurcat1350d ago

Just another example of gamers expecting everything for free just because they bought the game once.

Christopher1349d ago

Nah, in this case it's understandable anger. It's not about getting all the DLC and the game for less, but only the Ultimate edition gets the free-upgrade to next-gen and not all versions of the game? That's not good business and makes no sense.

Double_O_Revan1349d ago

I can kind of see this decision stem from the fact that the game was just on PS+. I didn't pay anything for the game, and therefore don't feel I should be entitled to any kind of upgrade. But you're right, for those that bought the game AND the DLC, this is a low blow.

At the very least, anyone that bought the Season Pass should be entitled to the upgrade. They've at least paid the equivalent of the Ultimate Edition.

SamPao1349d ago (Edited 1349d ago )

@Agent_00Revan you mean PSNOW, and no you pay for psNOW its not free.
If you want to play the game after august you will still have to buy it, Its so weird that they are doing this... EVERYONE that bought the game and gets the DLCs should be getting the enhanced version, if not then just dont do it at all.

sprinterboy1349d ago

Q: Did you get a free enhanced, remastered version upgrade on a film you once bought?

A: No you didn't

Baza1349d ago (Edited 1349d ago )

Looks like the majority of people think developers just push a next gen button and voila! I don’t believe Remedy promised a free next gen upgrade did they? A lot of people will be picking this up who hadn’t purchased. Not bad business.

UltraNova1349d ago

Agreed. Remedy should have made the enhanced patch free and available to all who already bought the game. They would still make money off of people who want the Ultimate edition; they shouldn't have tied the next-gen patch to it. I mean a move like this is asking for trouble especially when other publishers are offering this upgrade for free.

ziggurcat1349d ago

To be fair, the description was edited from when I responded. I suspect that with enough backlash, they'll make that upgrade free for OG owners.

yomfweeee1349d ago

Nah, it is about cry baby gamers. This game is a year old. The company had to spend money to do next gen upgrades. If you want those upgrades, you can pay again.

Or you can just play via BC.

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SamPao1349d ago (Edited 1349d ago )

yeah its a pretty shitty way to do it tbh.

I mean, if you bought the game ON LAUNCH and got all the DLC when they released you FOR SURE have paid more than somebody that gets the ultimate edition. so it really makes 0 sense

I really like the game btw, its great

gamer78041349d ago

right, wanting a patch to upgrade the visuals is exactly the same as wanting an entire game for free... this was not a smart business move plain and simple, a smart one would be allow owners of the dlc and game to upgrade for 5-10$ and explain that there was alot of cost to upgrading the game, fans would under stand this and pay the 5-10$, now instead they are losing goodwill and sales of the game, where they could be raking in 5-10$ as well as new purchasers of the ultimate edition. this isn't rocket science, just smart businesses, I hope they change their minds.

Petebloodyonion1349d ago

What work? Updating the game for 4k/60 frames per second?
You know that the PC got that day 1 right?
It's call max setting
And just for the info, there's strangely no word on a next-gen PC version I wonder why?

gamer78041349d ago

@pete it takes some work. It should be free i agree but if remedy needed to make a business case to 5050 games, 5-10$ would be a win for them financially instead of losing both financially and losing goodwill

sprinterboy1349d ago

I know right, we by multiple versions of yet another remaster starwars film with no complaints cause nobody would ever upset the starwars franchise.
Yet when it comes to upgrades for games it's all hell breaks loose.
Why doesnt everyone start getting banners and boards ready to take on the BS nxt starwars remaster or digitally enhanced ffs.
Gamers have gone from virgins to Crybabies.

Tacoboto1349d ago

This game was very poor-selling.
The people who did spend $60 and bought the $20-$30 DLC pack - the most loyal fans - won't get the same bonus as people who waited a year and spent have as much *for literally the same exact content* with zero way to upgrade.

To top it all off, as an RTX owner, we got the game for free last fall with our graphics cards.

It's consumer fuckery

SamPao1349d ago

You tell me, so WHY do they give you the upgraded version for ps5 if you buy the new ultimate version for ps4?

Edgelordsupreme1349d ago

Could you post this tenuous point again? I dont think everyone got it the first three times.

AKS1348d ago

The "Ultimate Edition" is the same content as what many Remedy fans have already purchased.

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deadfrag1349d ago

This is very lame from Remedy!

warriorcase1349d ago

more than likely a move from 505 Games being the publisher. Devs rarely have a say in these sorts of things.

bcbproductions1349d ago

how? you want a free upgrade to next gen for a game that came out a year ago?

AKS1348d ago

The publisher is responsible for things like this. Platinum got crap for not properly updating Nier: Automata when it was SquareEnix that is responsible for funding this type of maintenance, which they declined to do.

Christopher1349d ago

***However, it must be acknowledged that Control runs like hot garbage on current consoles***

Runs perfectly fine for me on PS4...

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I agree with the sentiment that it's crap business to not auto-upgrade every version of the game. I'm assuming some backlash will fix that and the PR response will be "it was a communication error, we always intended to upgrade every version of the game."

Freezedried721349d ago

Oh man, you're lucky! I reviewed the original game on PS4 for another site, and really loved it but had a terrible time with the frame rate. I came back and reviewed The Foundation expansion, and was...well, not shocked, but kinda surprised that I was still seeing the same issues. My frame rate regularly dips down into single digits. I am not the sort that normally cares about frame rate, so long as it doesn't interfere with gameplay. But in this case, it did.

Thanks for reading the article!

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Now that Remedy owns Control, it’s time to reclaim Quantum Break

Alan Wake 2 studio Remedy Entertainment has reclaimed the rights to Control, and now sci-fi hit Quantum Break deserves the same treatment.

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Petebloodyonion54d ago

Totally agree with that especially when Quantum Break has several references to Alan Wake and Alan Wake make allusions to QB.
I do believe that MS and Remedy can work things out and MS has usually been nice to devs and publishers regarding IP.

Obscure_Observer54d ago

They can't "reclaim" what was never theirs.

Petebloodyonion54d ago

I’m sure we can settle for purchase from MS the IP.

Lightning7754d ago

MS is not doin anything with it. Plus they're doing a multiverse of their own so Remedy needs the IP.

If MS wants to have exclusive let it be timed for 6 months then go to other platforms. MS seems to be, let's say, generous with some if their games as of late.

Or have QB2 be multiplat from the jump, put it on GP. Keeping QB2 as an exclusive is kinda weird these days.

Obscure_Observer53d ago (Edited 53d ago )

@Petebloodyonion

"I’m sure we can settle for purchase from MS the IP."

Good luck

@Lightning77

"MS is not doin anything with it."

Japan Studio is dead nd Sony isn´t doing anything with Bloodborne either! Yet I can 100% guarantee that there´s a far bigger demand for a sequel, remake or even a remaster for that game from both PS5 and PC gamers.

That been said, why don´t you ask Sony tol sell the IP to Fromsoftware now that according to rumors, they bought Elden Ring from Bandai?

ZwVw54d ago (Edited 54d ago )

Reclaim? That would mean that they actually owned the ip at one point, which they never did (MS always has). Apples & oranges. Remedy always owned the Control ip (just not the publishing), as they have with Alan Wake.

About as likely as them getting the Max Payne rights from Rockstar.

mastershredder54d ago (Edited 54d ago )

Sending you game to a publisher does not mean they get "rights to own it " unless that was part of the contract (monetary/ strategic reasons). 505 was the publisher they worked with to publish and distribute it, it dos not mean that 505 flat out "owned" anything, clearly they did have a special arrangement that made them open to limit their publishing rights. and so here we are and big whoop

Jingsing54d ago (Edited 54d ago )

Yeah get Quantum Break PS5, only if you put it on disc with all the associated movie material.

isarai54d ago

I mean they got the Alan Wake IP back from MS, so I feel like they could get QB back as well

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Remedy Takes Full Control of Control Franchise From 505 Games

Remedy Entertainment has announced that they've purchased the full rights to the Control franchise from 505 Games.

isarai55d ago

Oh nice, I wonder if they'll try to do the same with Max Payne 🤔

-Foxtrot55d ago

I hope so, Rockstar ain't doing shit with it sadly.

I loved the gameplay in Max Payne 3, it was fantastic but it just didn't feel like Max Payne at its core, it felt like they were doing a new IP or experimenting with one and reshaped it into Max Payne

The Noire, the atmosphere, the dark grittiness, the graphic novel cutscenes, Mona Saxx were all missing.

I'm hoping if they ever get the rights back they do their own version of Max Payne 3, off the secret ending from MP2 where Mona survives.

Max was finally starting to heal thanks to Mona in MP2 and in MP3 they just put his character back to square one, all that development gone.

isarai55d ago

Kinda what I'm thinking too, like as much as I'd love for R* to give it their unmatched magic touch, they're not doing anything with it.

I loved MP3, only gripe was that the story had very little to do with Max personally but it was still great. The Mona ending would be amazing and honestly not entirely out of the realm since MP is kinda considered part of the control universe, though I would like that to stay out of MP as much as possible and be it's own thing.

The fact that we haven't gotten a MP3 remaster is crazy imo

JL293054d ago

Why would you need a Max Payne 3 remaster? You must be on console.

isarai54d ago

I'm on both, still want a remaster

GamerRN54d ago

I think Control was a great game that deserves a sequel

Machina54d ago

A sequel is in the works - they announced it a couple of years ago.

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Remedy’s new Control trademark is cause for celebration and concern

Alan Wake 2 developer Remedy Entertainment is setting its sights on what appears to be a new Control game as a fresh trademark emerges.

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