Ive been an xbox fan since the first gen but the sh*t msoft has done here lately is making me strongly consider jumping ship. I thought about getting both so I didn't have to miss out on big titles but this is really rubbing me the wrong way. I guess all those brute memes got to msoft lol

They need something asap as this launch is looking shocking now. Halo is a system seller like how BoTW sold the switch at launch and not having something like that is disastrous. Let's hope they have a plan B but I doubt it

343=trash
I heard Craig was the problem. I also heard Craig is now the lead developer. Brutes do it best. At least that's what Craig says.

I don't think the delay is a MASSIVE blow to launch the way the XSX is being promoted anyway I think it will sell most of if not all it's stock anyway, I imagine there will just be some disappointed Halo fans that will have to spend their time on a different game over the holidays.

Oh no
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MS simply is not good at this, not near Sony or Nintendo. They do not know how to manage studios and foster talent like the other two...just embarassing launch lineup for a new console.

Good and I did have a feeling they would. Wouldnt even mind if it took til fall-winter of next year too.

There is no one to blame for this but the ineptness of 343 Industries. Folks were crying about 60FPS being wanted for all games and doing away with 30. And not oh we need 120. Another stupid decision by 343 in a long litany of stupid decisions since they took over the franchise from Bungie now delaying the game entirely because the graphics need to be upgraded to passable levels do to the 120FPS that no one asked for.

What we asked for was no more 30FPS games that’s what we asked for. Of course Microsoft hears what they want to hear so they said: Hey guys how about the next Halo be 120FPS with graphics from the 2006 Xbox 360 era I bet they’ll love it! Turns out they were dead wrong, just like they were wrong on Chief not being the focal point of the last Halo.

Think I’m being too harsh? May I present into evidence Crackdown 3? Remember that supposed gem? I do. So here we go again with the never ending next year will be the year Microsoft blows the gaming world away. Next year is the year Xbox shows us the games. Next year this, next year that. They just saved me and many other people a boat load of money.

I’m all about PS5 and skipping the Series-X entirely until further notice. Hey Microsoft you cannot be trusted! So I’ll get one next year when you actually produce something worthwhile.

It's pretty disappointing to want to buy a new console & it has no AAA first party software to see what the console can actually do. Folks that want to buy the XBSX will have some current AA & indie timed exclusives within the first 6 months or so along with multi-plats,it seems they have a long way off to start releasing AAA first party next gen games to play. It's a possibility Halo Infinite may not be released until Fall of 2021.

I get why they delayed it. I'm glad they did...but....I WISH THEY COULD JUST GET IT RIGHT ONE TIME.

We put down serious money for these consoles.

Microsoft just shoot them self in the foot with a bazouka. After all the damage control made in the next week after the reveal, that was old build, shadows, ray tracing would save with a patch. It was all lies. The game got huge problems. The series X doesnt seem easy to work with. Thats for me seem easy to see. Dont know why. But a game that was being made for 5 years was reveal running on PC four months before launch..... WIth huge problems in every single aspect. The question here is what was Microsoft Thinking? Why even launch at november. The dont have a single must have title. Fable and State of decay were CGI.... Forza, CGI?.

It's a massive blow, it was the show stopper, the main course, I'm not really sure what games ms are going to promote to differentiate themselves this xmas, gonna be a hard sell.

So basically, buy an Xbox SX and play all the games you can play on your Cheaper Xbox one for the next two years till exclusives are ready. Phill, wtf have you done 🤦🏿‍♂️🤦 🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍ ♂️ This is Xbox one launch all over again. 2 years of hype f-Ed from your first showing and then second showing. I think I’m PS5 just like I was PS4 after selling my Xbox one due to a lack of decent exclusives. Oh well, I was ready to hand over the Money but what is the point of all this power if you can’t be responsible? See what o did there.

1st 2 years will be slow for series X imo, infact I see the series S selling better, putting the abysmal sales of the first 2 years of series X in question? As ps5 Pro will only be a year away? Its a win win for Playstation again this gen and the sales gap will be huge but that's not to say gamepass won't bring in some nice pennies for MS also though.

Off subject: This site needs to get its crap together. No other website I know of do you have to continually clear your cache to be able to get around an error and actually use the site.

On subject: They are using the Covid situation as an excuse for how Halo looks and its delay. I knew they would.

everyone on this website was saying it looked bad and that Halo has no more fans. Now everyone is saying its a big blow lmao make up your minds

This is good news

I would bet MS doesn't care. They only want you as a monthly subscriber. It doesn't Mather wich gen!

the worst thing about this all is most on n4g were defending halo now its turned out what users were unhappy about halo reveal has now come to be true. poor old Craig

What in the actual fuck. I was looking forward to Halo at launch. At this point I might as well get the ps5 at launch and just wait for xbox series X to have a halo infinite launch. Between this and marvel avengers exclusives ( I am a huge marvel fan) Microsoft is making hard to be an Xbox fan.

I'm just hoping it will be ready in 2021

Maybe they're going to delay the launch of the Xbox Series X, wouldn't be a bad idea honestly. Set themselves up for a better all out launch. Even if Sony has a years lead, that could be better than launching with crap.

So basically xbox now has nothing to compete with ps5

But I thought it was a months old demo?

It blows bigtime.

At this point, and I hope to say it. Price point absolutely doesn't matter as pertaining to Microsoft. Sony console could be 100 more dollars, and most people are still buying it. The 12tflop nonsense has worked out disastrously Microsoft. I told some friends months ago that that power advantage would be their undoing. I literally said" If those xbox games don't look immediately better out of the gate. Their dead on arrival!!!! Microsoft and alias put so much weight on the power advantage. That it never dawned on them that if they didn't have the software to match the claim immediately. People aint going from sony to them(and no game pass isnt going to do it). Unless they have ps4 like energy. Hope is Hope, and reality is the truth that inconveniences your dreams!!!!!

Phil Spencer 2020: "The Roadmap Has Never Been Stronger"
Phil Spencer 2020: "The maths says we have to reveal games every time we're on stage"
Phil Spencer 2020: "feeling good after seeing Sony’s showcase"

Better to delay it and get it right than rush a product out the door. COVID certainly played a hand in the state it was in for the Xbox Showcase. It's better to recognize that now and give the time to fix it... Than to have it at launch for the sake of having a Halo at launch.

Damn I'm upset now. I never thought this would affect me so directly. Sony just jacked up the price of PS5 another hundred bucks.

This is more proof that Halo: Infinite should have been a Xbox Series X exclusive.

I know Microsoft and 343 won't be able to take full advantage of the new system, but I still think the best move is cancel the Xbox One version.

this is Halo Infinite on a reported $500 million budget, This is Halo Infinite on a new game engine, on new most powa 'ful console ever built that was built by the same people that brought you the Xbox One X and this console is even easier to build a game on and this is Halo Infinite built from the ground up on the Xbox Series X with years in development and then the glorious day comes to show the world and reveal the greatest game ever made.........ANNNNNND........ you get Craig! ....and 2 weeks later they delay Craig. This is Xbox running at %100 peak performance. This is what happens when people have no clue what their doing...... Any questions?

Legit I think Sony might just tweet the release date and price and maybe Jack up the price another 100 bucks. Even if they do supposedly have more to show for launch, why should they? If the competition is chopping off limbs just like last time, who cares?

Ha!

Better to delay the game and get it to higher fidelity for the Series X. I like 343 as a studio. Halo 4 and 5 were good games. Not everyone liked the storyline of 5 but the gameplay and graphics between these two games were getting better and better.

Don't worry guys. Just wait for next year. Oh and 2024 will be the greatest year in Xbox history with games like Fable and Hellblade

If Cyberpunk (nextgen version) would be released at the same time of XsX release, that would be great! Perhaps a bundle in the making? Wouldn’t care for Halo as much then to be honest.

looks like they'll have to make a day one edition again lol

I just don’t get it... i mean i’m a Nintendo first PS guy 2nd but I always liked Xbox up until about half way through the X360 era... in fact, back then I was an Xbox guy period... i loved the OG Xbox and then they followed it up with the 360 which was great besides for the RROD fiasco which i had to buy 3 systems for. I did that though because xbox was the place where my friends and myself played the games we liked. Common sense thought that after they blundered the Xbox One Launch that there was no way that they would do the same for the Series X launch and I really had been on the fence on which system I was going to get at the end of 2020.

But after their last Series X showcase of Halo Infinite and how proud and dedicated they were to show off a game that looked like a late gen 360 game and they lied again about the build being old and then lied again saying they just needed to add Ray tracing and paid Digital Foundry to say it was the lighting at the showcase and now the game won’t be ready until 2021 or who knows when? Huh.... to think I was ready to go back to Xbox... Is this a joke and they are joking with their fanbase and will just pull out 2 to 3 exclusives that I’m interested in before launch? I don’t get it Microsoft and I’m sticking with Sony and Nintendo... Thanks for making the decision that much easier for me during the upcoming gen.

Nothing wrong with delaying a game in order to deliver a better game. But for me that's an independent matter from the total disaster this really represents from Microsoft and Xbox, once again:

1) A game years in the making with virtually "Infinite" budget when putted into perspective;
2) A marketing strategy around XSX ramped up recently with the support of having Halo Infinite both as launch title and as a day one GamePass marketing flag;
3) An entire event reveal show off at July 23rd where they start with hands-on gameplay on Halo Infinite;
3.1) Demo is off course visually and technically disappointing;
3.2) Demo is not even running on XSX devkit, but on a PC with "representative" specs; I know this is not a critical issue, but why a first party team working on the most important first party IP has a launch title doesn't go with a demo "proudly" running on native hardware at this point?
4) Boommm!!! Less then 15 days after they postpone the game for unknown date somewhere next year, and the reason that takes most of the justification is CODVID-19;

They put themselves into this situation...again...why??? Is like they can't help themselves but to screw their own business when it comes to Xbox...

Promises after promises and simply can't output nearly as close as one might expect. That's why they disappoint so much...

It will never happen, but MS should just delay the entire console at this point. I know, Christmas sales and all, but with all the crap going on, I wonder how many are going to have the extra money this holiday at all...
For all we know the entire economy could be collapsed in a few months lol.

Zero reason to buy at launch now, not that halo would have been or ever will be good again. 1 2 and 3 are in my top 10 all time, they're never getting that magic back with 343.

I told MS not to hire ex Trump lackeys.

The delay is GOOD for Halo, obviously.

Fix the game before release rather than slowly applying patches whilst leaving a bitter taste in gamers' mouths) is far more beneficial to the franchise, the health of gaming in general, and gamers' reaction/enjoyment.

The delay is also TERRIBLE for Xbox.

Halo is supposed to be the flagship title for Series X/S and now there is very little reason to purchase their next gen console. This debacle massively affects the brand and will no doubt harm console sales. I wonder how many extra PS5 sales will be gained from this.

Phil Spencer needs to be held accountable. He shouldn't be allowed to just schmooze his way out of this one. Not whilst keeping any credibility at least.

I see people are blowing this out of proportion, games get delayed all the time. I could careless as long as they make the game great 👍🏻. Yeah people are gonna say (Well it’s their flag ship game it should be blah blah blah.) Plenty of other great games exclusive or not.

One word.....Spencer Out!!!

What a disaster. This was their flagship, next generation big gem and this is what is going on. MS is a complete and utter joke now. Thank god for Gamepass, other then that, woof.

I’d rather have a better halo game so I could care less. I’ll buy a series x day one for the definitive best versions of multiplat games and that’s not debatable. Exclusives come out a few times a year multiplats come out every Tuesday.

Yeah, it is, but it's good for 343 Industries to save face, unless the product looks the same and it's all just squashing bugs, then they're screwed but, then we're talking about a complete overhaul and if that's the case, can they have it done in that time frame?

I thought the XseX wasn't launching with any first-party games anyway, that everyone already knew that.

I thought the graphics looked great and like classic halo, i didnt want a "visually stunning super realistic game".... like who did? I dont get all you people bitching.

It doesn't matter, I was still going to buy a PS5 regardless.

Xbone mk2 incoming. Microsoft couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

Someone in Microsoft should make a call to Bungie... and ask them some things or pay them to fix Halo.

Is this the first console in history to have nothing for its launch line up, other than bc games? Thats just bad

Good, the game looked horrible. Plus all those pop ups were mindblowing