How Xbox Has Become the Most Consumer-Friendly of the Big Three

AngelicIceDiamond1521d ago

Maybe because they're not ready to talk about new games yet?

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CaptainHenry9161521d ago (Edited 1521d ago )

Just like every decade. I'm sure they'll talk about Halo and Forza though

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gangsta_red1521d ago

So the talk of Playgrounds new game, the sequel to Hellblade, a new Battletoads, new Ori...those don't count?

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mandf1521d ago (Edited 1521d ago )

Diamond xbox one has been out 6 years, tell me how many quality exclusives they put out. A whole gen wasted on broken promises. Phil Spencer's promises.

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CaptainHenry9161521d ago (Edited 1521d ago )

@gangsta_red

Ori is a multiplatform game now. I got it on my Switch and I'm sure the sequel will be too. Hellblade was mediocre at best. Good graphics though. Battletoads wouldn't make me invest in an Xbox and nothing to get to excited about. They need something bigger and better. I'm still waiting for that new AAA exclusive that stands out on Xbox other than Halo and Gears which I find stale and no longer fresh now imho.

@Vasto

We're talking about exclusive games and not specs. Last time I checked the ONE X had better specs than the PS4 pro and nothing changed.

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CaptainHenry9161521d ago (Edited 1521d ago )

@Steve

I got a high end PC for better looking games and multiplats but I still like first party exclusives. What really changed is that the PS4 still passed the 100 million mark because of their first party and second party exclusives and the X stayed below the 45 million mark to be honest. I wonder why?

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gangsta_red1521d ago (Edited 1521d ago )

@Captainhenry

But we're talking about New Games, not games you personally don't like.

See the difference?

It's always fun to see the same weak "no games" comment turn into "they don't count because I don't like those games" type arguments.

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CaptainHenry9161521d ago (Edited 1521d ago )

@gangsta_red

Same weak no game comment you say? That's one of the reason the Xbox one is losing this generation because of weak and no diverse exclusives. But I'll take your word for it

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sampsonon1521d ago (Edited 1521d ago )

MS has not talked about new AAA games for 4yrs except for a flight sim, Gears, Forza and Halo. It's like they gave up.

Sony has 3 major AAA games coming out in the finale yr of this gen's cycle.
They should be the ones getting praised.

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leejohnson2221520d ago

Pahhh I can't catch my breath

rainslacker1520d ago

And them not being ready for the past 4-5 years is why I'm not ready to support them next gen

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RosweeSon1520d ago

Was an entire generation not enough time.

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1Victor1520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

Angelicicediamond
“ Maybe because they're not ready to talk about new games yet?”
Lol 6 years and not ready
Microsoft was forced to became consumers friendly by their failure to continue to compete in equal grounds with Sony and forcing players with the my way or the high way mentally of the XBO E3 revealing same as Sony did became friendlier after the PS3 revei

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kayoss1520d ago

Theyre still not ready to talk about new games after 9 + years??

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AngelicIceDiamond1521d ago

@Captain Look on the calendar is it June yet? How many excuses and deflections and very unrealistic assumptions are you gonna make? Probably as much you can. BTW where's all the PS5 games? Where's Godfall and GT7? Where's all the unannounced PS5 games?

"Next E3 meeting is today, tons to talk about between now and E3 & deep portfolio of XGS games for E3."

https://gamerant.com/xbox-p...

Uhh! Uhh! Make excuses now!

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mandf1521d ago

How about all the games this gen we are already in?

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AngelicIceDiamond1521d ago

@Mand It'll be cross gen games.

"Series X is doomed no unique next gen games!"

Heard that one already. Get it all out of your system.

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sampsonon1521d ago (Edited 1521d ago )

ps5? lol were still enjoying ps4 games. The Last Of Us 2, Ghost Of Tsushima, and FF7.
What does MS have coming out this yr? Flight simulator?
Sony rocks, and that's why they will always sell more consoles than MS.

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rainslacker1520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

You mean June of 2019? Or 2018? Maybe 2017? I mean, these were all years where I was told to wait until E3 to hear about all the great stuff they were going to be bringing in the near future. I guess in June of 2020, we'll hear about all the games that will come out at an indeterminate time in the near, or maybe far future. Then we just have to wait for that right?

I've been told it takes 2-3 years, maybe 4 to make AAA games. I was told it takes time to get things organized. Well, I've been told these things for more than 2-3, or even 4 years, and if it took 2-3, or even four years to finally get finalized, does that mean waiting another 2-3, or even 4 years to finally get the games they promised me back in year one when they had one billion invested in new games?

Do you really honestly believe that it's reasonable, as a consumer, to wait 2-3, even 4 years to finally get the content that is expected of a console maker. Within 5 years of releasing the PS1, Sony had one of the strongest 1st party publishing houses in the world. This was up from what was a rather modest or average PC gaming sector mostly focusing on licensed properties. By the time the PS2 was released after PS1, Sony had created more new IP's, more GOTY nominees or winners, and more long lasting IP's, than MS has total IP's created in house. Of all their big IP's, the only two they actually created are Forza, and Fable. Gears and Halo they brought. Everything else is either brought, or is mid-tier.

Greatness awaits right? Too bad I don't, and good thing Sony didn't wait because I'd hate to have to be disappointed in them this gen.

The problem with waiting for the future, is that the future never comes, and MS hasn't proven they can bring the future into the present.

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leejohnson2221520d ago

Do you get paid by ms to push their marketing and brand? It's amazing to me how hard people who support one corporation can't stop talking about the one they hate, isn't that a mental condition? I get it you love ms and I'm sure they will do just fine but even they say they are not competing with Sony so it's all good

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Vasto1521d ago (Edited 1521d ago )

/SMH
They announced new games at the last conference Xbox had which was XO19.

February: Wasteland Remasterd
March: Bleeding Edge, Ori And The Will Of Wisp
April: Minecraft Dungeons
May: Wasteland 3
Spring 2020: Grounded
Summer 2020: Tell me Why
Holiday 2020: Halo Infinite
TBA 2020: Psychonauts 2, Microsoft Flight Simulator, Battletoads, Gears Tactics, Phantasy Star Online 2, Crossfire X, The Last Night, Tunic, Sessions, KartRider: Drift, The Falconeer

This has been Xbox's 2020 so far.

Jan 3: Grand Theft Auto 5 ( Game Pass )
Jan 9: Frost Punk, Sword Art Online, FTL Advanced Edition ( Game Pass )
Jan 16: Tekken 7, Children Of Morta ( Game Pass )
Jan 22: Ninja Theory announces new IP Project Mara
Jan 24: A Plague Tale Innoncence, Indivisible, Gris ( Game Pass )
Jan 30: Fishing Sim World, Sea Salt ( Game Pass )

Feb 6: Final Fantasy XV Royal Edition, Wolfenstien New Blood ( Game Pass ), Scorrge Bringer ( Game Pass )
Feb 7: Phantasy Star Online 2 Beta
Feb 14: Bleeding Edge Beta
Feb 20: Ninja Gaiden II ( Game Pass )
Feb 25: Wasteland Remastered ( Game Pass ), Kingdom Hearts III ( Game Pass )
Feb 26: Yakuza 0 ( Game Pass)

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Elda1521d ago (Edited 1521d ago )

Most of those titles are old multi plats & the new games are indie like AA games. Where are the original AAA interesting jaw dropping 1st,2nd or 3rd party current gen exclusives for the next 10 months of this year for the XBO?

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Vasto1521d ago

Sorry I missed one.

Feb 25: Two Point Hospital ( Game Pass )

#AllEyesOnXbox

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Traecy1520d ago

That line up is quite tired,where are the AAA exclusives for 2020?

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Elda1520d ago

You listed Gamepass games in January & February that I've played already & they're old. The list you made for future releases are indie/arcade like AA games. The only AAA exclusive in your list is Halo Infinite which has no confirmed release date. When it comes to Playstation AAA exclusives Sony just released Dreams this month which is doing great with great reviews. This March is Nioh 2 & Persona 5:Royal. April is the huge FFVII:R & May is TLOU2. I personally don't care about old games on Gamepass because any old game released there I've most likely played already day one. Any game that releases day one that I'm interested & eager to play I have purchased with cash because I work & I don't have to wait for it to be on Gamepass. Again what AAA exclusives are releasing on the XBO throughout 2020? Any AAA exclusives releasing this Spring & Summer or even this Fall??

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StoneyYoshi1520d ago

Have fun playing all those games when their servers or your internet is down since it will have to confirm you still are allowed access at some point when using the service. This is what MS wanted all along since the original announcement of the XBO. They don't want you to physically own the games anymore. Once enough people stick with game pass, I bet you physical copies will be no more. They are just doing exactly what they wanted just in a different way that looks pro consumer. Thankfully ill have a PS5 and my PC so i can enjoy everything available and if my internet or network services are down, ill still be able to play plenty of games on my PS5 or PC.

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Mr_Writer851520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

"LMAO, Dreams is not AAA and it is not doing great. Its a Flop"

89 on metacritic

Number 8 in the UK chart in its debut week.

The fact you have to literally lie to try and argue shows that your whole points are weak.

Game Pass is cool, but to try and count the games on there as "new" is streching.

"What games do they have coming and can I play them through a digital service where I dont have to spend $65 on each game? LOL"

None because Sony don't need a game pass service as gamers actually want to buy their games.

What Xbox game is coming that is soooooo good that gamers actually want to buy it even if its on game pass.

The answer? Well same as the answer to your question.

"What AAA games are coming and can I play them through a digital service like Game Pass where I do not have to spend $65 on each game?"

What AAA games are leaving GP?

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Z5011520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

YOOOOO!

You actually put specific games from gamepass. But didn't just write ... 'gamepass this year so far'

If you're not apart of MS's PAID PR team. Whatever device(s) you use to access the internet. Throw them in the closest body of water.

*every gp game you listed. as a non-xbox/pc owner. I have access to the same games cept 1st party. and I own them. I don't rent them.

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@Vasto

Vasto "Its a flop dude."

"Dreams opens lower than 1.5k in Japan (Retail only, does not factor early access, policestationx tries to start console war)"

That's from the link. So what other proof do you have?

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Elda1520d ago

Why do you keep showing me a list of old multi plat games along with Indies,Arcade & AA games. Please comprehend...Show me a list with at least 5 AAA XBO exclusives that you'll be playing on the XBO between February & June Only. Not that list that you've already written,just a list of 5 AAA XBO exclusives releasing this year. Hell write down one including the release date. (crickets) LMAO!!

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rainslacker1520d ago

I think game pass is a great value. But using it to pad the list of games that ms is releasing from their own studios is pretty lame.

I mean, your first part of the comment was enough, the rest just seems desperate.

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ShadowWolf7121520d ago

"Anything like XCloud coming?"

They've had Remote Play for years now but ok.

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@vasto

Thats Japan only, hope this helps.

Sony spend plenty of money on studios to make games, Dreams is the perfect example. You would never get a game like that from MS.

And again Sony don't NEED it, game pass is MS reaction to getting destroyed by Sony.

Game Pass wouldn't exsist if MS were top dog. So in reality, Sony and PlayStation fans should take credit for Game Pass, because without them MS probably wouldn't of made such a desperate play for good will.

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@Vasto
Sure PS Now may be a failure. but what about the XB one X? the most powerful console this gen and what do they have to show for? No exclusives that show case the all powerful Xbox one X, No triple A games announced, so sure if PS Now is a failure when it comes to digital gaming. Xbox One X (and the xbox one) is a total failure as a console.

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TheTony3161519d ago

All i see is old and new multiplats.

TheTony3161519d ago (Edited 1519d ago )

"I will ask you again, What has Playstation done in 2020?"

How about Dreams, FF7 remake, TLOU2, Ghost of Tsushima and Yakuza 7 lol. You know unlike MS, Sony and Playstation still have new games to release on their current system. MS has pretty much given up on this gen.

TheTony3161519d ago (Edited 1519d ago )

"What games do they have coming and can I play them through a digital service where I dont have to spend $65 on each game? LOL"

PS Now, LOL.

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Rude-ro1521d ago (Edited 1521d ago )

“Most consumer friendly”
Pushed play anywhere... except for their titles that would actually sell like mccc or gears 5.
Lied repeatedly or misled per capabilities with false advertising or the promise of “cloud power”..
Has not made a new AAA ips in 9 years and counting... of which is HIGHLY needed for their additional subscription service in order to sustain its relevance. Putting weight into third party games that are under contract will not do it.
Spends more money with their media partners trying to push agendas or false hope while not doing anything productive within the gaming community..
Then the cherry on top... you HAVE to pay to access free to play games.

I said the other day when the first war cries starting showing up... Microsoft is paying for recognition while not earning it and their exact same shills in these sites keep pushing the same ol song as if no one can tell. 🤔

“Do not sell what the consumers want, make the consumers buy what you are selling”
Bill Gates

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ReadyPlayer221521d ago (Edited 1521d ago )

Lied repeatedly about the power of the cloud? I love the internet, absolutely NO research is done before spewing nonsense.
Microsoft Flight Simulator literally uses the cloud to render objects far away because the game is SO massive and detailed that high end PCs would explode trying to play it. xCloud uses the cloud to allow a 4 year old TABLET, to play Halo MCC at 720p. At least get your facts straight.

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Knushwood Butt1520d ago

^

High end PCs would explode?

You should work in XBOX PR division.

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rainslacker1520d ago

MS lied about the impact that the cloud would have on the consoles, and game design itself this generation. As a proof of concept, they did show that the idea of cloud is workable. Not by a measure that makes people that excited, but still proved it works as a concept.

@ready

Yes, lied. Unless you can show me how the cloud made the xbox many times stronger than it actually was. How cloud compute was going to completely change the way games were designed this generation. To date, the cloud has had absolutely no impact on the power of the console, and they showed that the local hardware is still limited by its design. They overstated the extent to which cloud would be used.

Cant really spin that into anything to make MS look good, and I was one of the people telling people that what ms was talking about was technically possible to some level, but I still called it that cloud compute was going to be irrelevant for this generation.

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CaptainObvious8781520d ago

@ReadyPlayer

https://www.mcvuk.com/micro...

I love the internet, absolutely NO research is done before spewing nonsense.

That 4 times the power claim was a complete and utter lie. So please, take your own advice and do a 4 second google search before looking so foolish.

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Ausbo1521d ago

They’ve announced more next gen games than anyone already

rainslacker1520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

Bethesda is equal to them right now. Count of two. Some space game and a new Elder Scrolls game.

Other games they announced are cross gen games. In fact, all games released in the first 1-2 years of the XSX lifetime are going to be cross gen games with the X1.

So technically.....MS hasn't announced a single next gen game, just games that will be playable on the XSX.

Food for thought...or spin it if you like.

Unless we're changing the metric of what is considered a next gen game now. I can never keep up with what metric is used to accommodate Microsoft's mediocrity. It's like they work off the premise of everyone gets a trophy just for participating. If so, my apologies. I often forget that MS has a lower standard to adhere to.

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Muzikguy1521d ago

What's interesting is how anti consumer they were at the beginning of this gen but now are all of a sudden worthy of high praise. What about the companies that didn't go down that anti consumer road?

Atom6661521d ago

Technically they never went don't that road themselves, right?

They announced plans in mid-2013 that we disliked and we gave them shit about it. They went to market without them, but we reminded them of their mistakes every chance we got.

Now they're doing things we can praise. It's not really all of a sudden when we're approaching 7 years later here. I don't know how else to look at it.

You can perpetually hate on a company for its past stupidity, but there's too much to go around for me. If I really kept up that kind of energy, I could rant all day about how MS, Sony, and Nintendo have made poor choices for consumers over the decades.

Praise the positive moves and hope others follow suit. To answer your question: Sony has been praised for years now for what they did with PS4. It's not like that goes away just because someone who was thoroughly beaten into humility is now doing a lot of praise-worthy things.

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gangsta_red1521d ago

They changed all their policies to become the most user friendly out of the three now...not THEN, we're talking about now.

What about the companies that haven't been providing as many user friendly features and options now? You know like this article is talking about.

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rainslacker1520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

I don't think anyone went truly anti consumer. The term has been used the wrong way for years now. A business decision is not necessarily anti consumer just because it doesnt completely benefit the consumer.

I'd even say that ms with the xbox, has never really been that anti consumer to the point they deserve unending criticism for it.

Both companies have some consumer unfriendly policies, which are worth criticizing.

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rainslacker1520d ago

I think actual results of that attempt of theirs was enough punishment for them.

I do believe they should be praised for the good things they've done this gen. It's not all bad by any means. It's just that the most important thing, which is games, they've failed miserably on, and their attitude towards that failure is overly nonchalant or they go on about how great they are, which just makes those disappointed with them look at them as if they're narcissist who think their sh*t don't stink....because that's generally how they behave when talking about themselves, or their performance.

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343_Guilty_Spark1521d ago

Pretty sure there new studios are hard at work on games.

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CaptainObvious8781520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

I'm sure they are very hard working on games, but why did they only start 6 months ago instead of, lets say, I don't know... BEFORE THE START OF THE GENERATION???!!!

And considering MS past history, it can't be assumed any of the games are going to be any good.

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NeoGamer2321521d ago

I will agree that MS had a horrible generation first party game wise.

When Spencer took over first party was a mess. They didn't have many games and the ones they did have were of questionable quality. Since then, Spencer went and shutdown the junk and junk studios, and then went on a rebuild of the first party pretty much from the ground up. That took time.

As for consumer-friendliness MS has been the one pushing this generation. Backwards compatibility pushed by MS, the pro controller pushed by MS, the adaptable controller pushed by MS, cross play last gen was pushed by Sony but this generation it is MS, GamePass has set the bar for game subscription services, and MS has improved the XB OS 10-fold from day one. What has Sony or Nintendo outside of their games to become more consumer friendly?

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Tedakin1520d ago

They've bought a bunch of studios. Games take time. With Gamepass for a dollar, cross platform play etc... they are by far the most consumer friendly company. Sony made you guys rebuy all your games to get updates like Last of Us and God of War 3. Xbox updated everyone's games free.

P_Bomb1520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

“ Sony made you guys rebuy all your games to get updates like Last of Us and God of War 3.“

Wait a minute, you talking about TLOU: Remastered from 2014? The same year Xbox 360 and Xbox One had two different versions of Titanfall and Forza Horizon 2? Pretty sure buying Titanfall on 360 didn’t crossbuy you the X1 copy. Neither did GTAV, MGSV, AC4, Destiny.

“Xbox updated everyone's games free.”

Minecraft cost $5 to upgrade https://www.engadget.com/20... .

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Christopher1520d ago

Isn't Bleeding Edge a new game?

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yomfweeee1520d ago

Spencer has been in charge of Microsoft games since well before X1. There's no one to blame but him.

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VoiceMale1520d ago

except getting little funding from shared capital from the surface team...as they answered to them.....
layman's term= little money to invest in gaming
now phil as head dont answer to surface team nor get funds from them, he gets reports only to satya nadella the ceo and has his own funding so he was able to spend more and invest more with a waaaaay bigger budget so he bought studios and built xbox one x and now the series x

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extermin8or1520d ago

@vasto so I think you need to be corrected here. Firstly x cloud is a game streaming service right? Well then ps now as you keep referring to it is the game streaming service that has been out on playstation for literally years at this point. Playstation plus is the service that provides 2-3 free games a month ontop of access to online play etc. This month we recieved bioshock collection and sims 4 not and last month the uncharted collection and I cant remember what the other game was. Anyway they are old games nost of us have already bought if we wanted to play them. Most of the titles you mention people already own and can be purchased with large discounts off the psn store or for pc - gamepad works on over anyway doesnt it? So why purchase an xbox..... people have been asking you to name new games releasing on xbox not old games rereleasing on game pass.

TheTony3161520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

@Vasto

I bet you don't even know what most of these features do.

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gravedigger1520d ago

Xbox is poised to dominate. You haven't heard?

gamer78041520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

Good redirection, but this article is about being consumer-friendly... not about upcoming games which is a different topic. IMO MS has done a pretty good job the last few years on this. Its very easy to get ahold of someone at microsoft to talk to or on the phone if support is needed. They also have an official discord channel and keep players up to date via twitter etc on any support issues or new annoucmenets. Nintendo and Sony have a long way to go in this regard at least.

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MinnesotaFatts1520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

I blame Don Mattrick. What in crikey @#$% was Microsoft THINKING?

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gangsta_red1521d ago

Very true, definitely loving this better direction from Xbox especially since there seems to be a lot of harbored pent up resentment towards actual MS from a long time ago that seems to resonate and is applied to Xbox.

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crazyCoconuts1521d ago

that's a fair point imo. i was just thinking recently how I'd view XBox if MS spun off another company to run it or sold it. my guess is that i'd give it another chance. I agree that the direction is improving for them.

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RazzerRedux1521d ago

My "resentment" towards Xbox has always stemmed from the lack of first party games. I harped on it forever and frankly, I believe I was absolutely right to do so. Having said that, MS has turned the corner and is on the verge of a gaming renaissance, imo. I like this newer version of MS and Xbox gaming especially ever since they have improved their relations with PC gamers after practically ignoring us for so long. Doesn't mean I agree with everything they say and do. If anything, though, I think Phil Spencer has been able to repair a lot of the goodwill that was lost this gen.

gangsta_red1521d ago

I definitely agree. The criticism towards Xbox not providing as many first party games was absolutely warranted. And I think them buying new studios is part of them turning things around...even if it's more to do with providing content for Game Pass. But hey, that still doesn't take away the fact they fixed one of their major problems a lot of gamers complained about.

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SyntheticForm1520d ago

"My "resentment" towards Xbox has always stemmed from the lack of first party games."

That's really 'it' isn't it? That's the biggest issue and any objective observer would tell you that Xbox has been seriously lax on first party output this generation. It's just the truth.

Xbox's first party output for the future remains to be seen, but I'm not worried. I understand concerns and appreciate those types of arguments but I'm just not running around all gloom and doom. I think it will get better.

I too like the Xbox/PC merging and find it quite positive.

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Rhythmattic1520d ago

Quite Simply... Xbox now no longer be referred to as console hardware, its definition has changed.....
They couldn't ever beat Sony in the console market, They've moved the Goal posts... for better or worse....
The New "Console" really is for those hard core console gamers, I personally think MS dont care about units sold, Its subscriptions...
Be great if they released their games to run locally on Linux supporting Vulcan...

extermin8or1520d ago

@gangsta except they have not yet fixed it. They promised to fix it start if the generation after a lax second half to the gen before. So why would people believe them now. No they need to produce the goods then we will see.... Also the merging of pc and xbox meaning most exclusives release on pc basically means they arent exclusive and I don't see why you wouldn't Dave alot if money get a gaming PC to play those on and a ps5 and be able to play exclusives and third party titles wherever.

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yomfweeee1520d ago

The hell? Seriously what did Microsoft do this gen? Don't say anything about next gen. It is all talk so far. X1 got smashed this gen. There's a reason.

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rainslacker1520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

So wait. When I said years ago that people don't like MS as a whole, because of their history, and I get Obscure vehemently opposing that notion, and you sometimes chiming in, you actually agree with me? Or did that whole conversation and talking points slip your mind when MS was making it's move into PC gaming in an attempt to take on Steam?

Anyhow, yeah, maybe it's pent up history with MS. But, MS has plenty to be critical of this generation without bringing their history into it. The biggest being their game output, and for me personally, I dislike Spencer's constant talk, and his attitudes about his own, or MS performance this gen.

They've done a lot of good things too, and they should be credited for those things, so to break my common model of criticism, I'll state what I think they did right.

-A BC solution. A clever way to get around licensing issues, and they deserve props for coming up with it.
-Game pass is good in its current form, and while there is room to pontificate on what it can mean for the long term, there is no real reason to dislike it at the moment, and things change over time so no worst case scenario is set in stone.
-The adaptive controller. Probably one of the best advancements for accessibility to ever come out of Redmond, and a huge step towards the standardization of such things to help improve developer adoption of such features.
-Despite my lack of interest in the mid-gen model going forward, I think they deserve major props for the design and execution of the X1X hardware.
-I'm glad they were open to cross play finally, although lets not discuss it, because we know how we both stand and this is about what they did right.
-I'll give them the elite controller. it's a nice design, at is probably a reasonable price for such thing.
-Their big games they have released are actually pretty good overall, if not excellent. Even a lot of their indie level 2nd party productions have been pretty good. Quality was never really MS 1st party issue this gen. It was always quantity.
-Their OS updates have been hit or miss, but kudos for trying to improve.
-Cross buy inititives. They didn't invent it, but good they are adopting, and adapting it to their own business model.

I'll even give them props for continuing to support this gen with games coming out on XSX as well. It's essentially cross gen, but if they can make the games work on current gen without having to sacrifice features of the next gen hardware, then that's a good thing for the users of current gen hardware. The other side of the coin we've discussed elsewhere, and I'm sure we'll discuss again, but it's a different argument.

Probably some other things I'm missing, but there it is.

Unfortunately, none of those good things make up for their performance this gen, and I'm not so free with supporting companies because they may do better in the future. If and when they fix the only major problem I have with them this gen, and show they can consistently deliver games, then I'll start to consider if they are deserving of my dollar.

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Blu3_Berry1521d ago

While Xbox may not have that many first-party games currently, they have been pretty good to its consumers this gen (except the xbox one launch, what a disaster that was).

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LM12131520d ago

bro, that was atrocious . I had a 360 before that and I was like.....nope. no thanks

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CuVe1520d ago

Yeah... Like 24hour check in and mandatory internet connection and no game share at the beginning? If its not for Sony, consoles would be dead. Short memory xbox fans in denial.

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DCarnage1519d ago

Sony had the same type of system patented. I'm guessing that after Microsoft had such bad publicity from their stage event, Sony backpedaled and left that little tidbit out and scrapped it. They then went on stage after MS and left that part out. I'm glad they did, I hate anti-consumerism. Although, the Xbox player toxicity went down tremendously from the 360 to the One because the "dude bros, I did your mom" peeps got a PS4.

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ZeekQuattro1521d ago

Because they went the anti consumer route early on in the XBO's life and it came back to bite them on the ass for years to come which lead to them reversing a lot of their positions.

UnholyLight1520d ago

It didn't help they had Mattrick literally say "Yeah well, theres an Xbox 360 for that" when it came to the outcry of Always Online and DRM or whatever. That was the final nail in the coffin even when they tried to fix their messaging and totally change the ship by moving on from him and retooling what the Xbox One was going to be. That definitely had a long lasting impact!

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Rhythmattic1520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

That was pretty much the equivalent of Sony on the PS3 launch saying the price is high, but if you want it youll work a second job to get it....

In both cases, Its a WTF moment.

In both cases, so out of touch.

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extermin8or1520d ago

@rythmattic yep both anti consumer and out of touch. Only difference is the sales suggest that infact some people literally may have done just that and bought a ps4 anyway because it launched a year after xbox 360 and sold online with previous console launches and ended the generation kneck and kneck with xbox despite having had a year less on the market.

UnholyLight1520d ago

Yeah even as a kid I remember the "$599 USD !"(RIP Canada pricing). It actually just made it seem even more legendary when friends parents had bought them for them. My buddy's dad was a diehard Sony guy so he bought them both a PS3 which is insane.

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notachance1521d ago

meh, come back again when they stop playing favoritism to NA/UK

they don't even have something basic like official representative in my country while the other two does, any of you hardcore XB defenders from outside of NA/UK? yeah that's what I thought

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darthv721521d ago

Well... NA is the single largest gaming territory in the world. EU makes up the largest territory of combined countries.

What country do you fall into?

extermin8or1520d ago

*looks at china* you sure about that?

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isarai1521d ago

I mean they've certainly gotten better, but they still do some anti consumer things everyone just seems to ignore. Also like how everyone is crediting MS for CDPRs decision.

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darthv721521d ago

that's because CDPR decision prob could not have happened if it weren't for the way MS laid it all out with cross gen games. They didnt force devs to do anything. MS simply said they are going to make their platform transitional and the devs seem to really dig that approach.

isarai1521d ago

Games have done it before plenty of times, hell call of duty ghosts did it last gen. Playstation store has a whole "cross buy" section dedicated to them

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gangsta_red1521d ago

Everyone?

Lon3wolf1520d ago

They live in a small world by the looks of it.

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timotim1520d ago

Still going with this narrative I see. Microsoft needs to get credit for designing this feature into their own system, no?

isarai1520d ago

There's no "feature" that was designed though. This is just giving you all skus when you purchase one. It's a basic function of any POS, it's basically a B1G1 deal. They deserve credit for doing it for their games yes, but Cyberpunk 2077 isn't their game, and so that was the decision of CDPR to do so, not MSs.

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timotim1520d ago

"They deserve credit for doing it for their games yes, but Cyberpunk 2077 isn't their game"

But Halo Infinite IS haha...so when we give them credit for that, don't try to tell us we shouldn't...

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isarai1520d ago

"But Halo Infinite IS haha...so when we give them credit for that, don't try to tell us we shouldn't... "

Why would i?

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rainslacker1520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

I think what Isarai is saying is that he feels people are giving MS credit for coming up with the idea, and because of that, MS is getting the credit for CDPR offering CP in this fashion. However, he isn't wrong, MS didn't come up with this idea. They just slapped a new marketing label on it.

It really is just cross buy, and its been available since the last couple years of the PS3, not long after the Vita launched. It's been applied to PSP, Vita, PS3, and PS4 games. You'll get anywhere between 2-4 versions of a game if it supports the feature. Some months of PS+ were bolstered by putting those games up in multiple sections of their offerings. There is a section that only has cross buy games in it. Many indie games use this feature. Quite a few games for Vita and PS3/PS4 offered this feature. I don't know how many big games from 3rd party offered it, but don't think any Sony big Sony 1st party game had it....although they didn't have a huge number of cross gen games between PS3 and PS4.

MS should be given credit for adopting the feature, and even adapting it to their own business model. I'll also give them props for making it more of a selling point for next gen, because Sony was more low key on that aspect, which could have actually helped the Vita at launch....but I digress. But, it was CDPR to offer cross buy, which they could do because MS opened the door for such things.

I do think them allowing or offering the feature, and using it for their games is consumer friendly.

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extermin8or1520d ago

CDPR announcement says "no gamer" likely meaning ps5 users will get upgrade free aswell.

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dietis_h1521d ago

lol, customer friendly.

absolutely laughable.

spicelicka1520d ago

Ok so it's the cheapest console of the 3. It has Gamepass which provides the most value per dollar compared to any other console. It provides the most bang for your buck.

From a consumer perspective that's the most important thing. It's certainly not laughable when you take your fanboy goggles off and look at it logically.

If you're comparing exclusives and sales it's definitely third, but "consumers" don't care about that, fanboys do.

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Tross1521d ago

I needed a good laugh. Lulz.

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i3eyond the Circle1521d ago

They are setting up nicely. Their first party can potentially release a steady rotation of at minimum 4-5 AAA exclusives. Playgrounds RPG, The Initiatives unknown project that has talent from all over working on it, Ninja Theory’s Project Mara/Project Dreadnought (games no longer bound by their past Indy budget), the amazing next works from the minds of Obsidian...

And that’s just counting on one hand and is a mere fraction of Xbox Game Studios not counting the flagships Halo, Forza, Gears... if and when these AAAs release and are quality what will the rebuttal of Sony fans be?

As I predicted many times in the past.. all that will be left is sales talk. So prepare the spin.

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BlackTar1871521d ago

Rebuttal = 4 generations of award-winning games on a steady flow.

i3eyond the Circle1521d ago

France also used to be a dominant military for hundreds of years, so what?

And you were resold more than half of those games as remasters.

So I guess I need to rephrase all that will be left is sales and the PAST.

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BlackTar1871520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

Lol france. What a weak response lol hundreds of years sounds good though so we're not even 10% thru the reign yet.

Sold meaning i bought them? Naw. I bet you love gamepass though right playing those older games for a new monthly fee?

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Christopher1520d ago

***France also used to be a dominant military for hundreds of years, so what?***

But, currently, Sony isn't dominant only in the past. Why are we making a comparison to the past when it applies to the present as well?

You essentially are saying "only what is in the future matters, ignore the present and past." That's some BS. And if MS doesn't win next generation, what then? Keep looking forward only?

I think there's a term for that, belief, not reality.

BehindTheRows1520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

"if and when these AAAs release and are quality what will the rebuttal of Sony fans be"

Read that back to yourself. Sony fans don't need a rebuttal when the company they support will DEFINITELY have these things. Instead of pointing fingers (or putting them in your ears), hope that Microsoft ups their game and puts out a steady flow of high quality content (like Nintendo and Sony continue to do).

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Chevalier1520d ago

He says Sony fans are 'nervous'? Lol about what.

So far this year PS4 has Dreams, Nioh 2, Ghost of Tsushima, TLOU2, FF VII, Persona 5 Royal, Gran Blue Versus, Yakuza 7 and a whole slew of AAA games.

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BehindTheRows1520d ago

Um, I don’t invest my life in being ‘nervous’ about a gaming company’s actions. Seems like you’re projecting a personal problem.

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rainslacker1520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

I dunno...what was the rebuttal of MS fan boys to all the, "Sony has no games" talk that seems to persist with any console launch Sony may have?

Whatever your answer to that is is what you have to look forward to.

So....you have that to look forward to, but at least you'll finally be getting 4-5 AAA exclusives with regular consistency, so who cares what they have to say?

In the mean time, it doesn't change the criticisms of MS output being piss poor this generation, or for the time being, so not exactly sure why you think you're winning the argument against these criticisms since you essentially validate them to try and put forth some future hypocrisy on Sony fan boys part.

Gotta love the rampant fan boy who can't even see the ill fated logic of their own arguments, and ends up affirming the current criticisms because sometime in the future they may not be relevant.

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moriarty18891521d ago

pretty much.

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BlackTar1871520d ago

just want to say i love the name and avatar

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moriarty18891520d ago

thank you bro.

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chiefJohn1171521d ago

I think the XO reveal was the best thing to ever happen for Xbox gamers. Cause after the backlash MS has been so consumer friendly and the brand only improved. 12tf! GP, the X, BC, etc. Meanwhile Sony quiet as hell like they're scared backing out of gaming conferences and making anti consumer moves

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Kaedro1521d ago

LOL what a click-bait article XD

outsider16241521d ago

Lol...alright alright..
They are trying, ill give them that.

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sampsonon1521d ago

no games. good job

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TheHateTheyGive1521d ago (Edited 1521d ago )

All these pro xbox articles and not one about games for xbox. Uncle phil still playing the smoke and mirrors game. Sony has 7 blockbuster exclusives coming out this year on ps4.

waverider1521d ago (Edited 1521d ago )

«News» just like this just reflect why Microsoft is so far away from Nintendo and Sony. No matter how many of those titles are made, the reality is that gamers just dont buy it anymore. This year is another empty path until the launch of the Series X. Zero must have, zero system seller, zero hype about games. Services and bc are very good, but their impact is just very low. No matter how much spin its done.

«Microsoft is setting an impressive benchmark and creating an expectation that Sony really can’t risk under-delivering on. Despite not having a splashy reveal event, Microsoft has done a fantastic job of slowly delivering Xbox Series X information that points towards an incredibly consumer-friendly future».

Sony cant risk? In what world does he live? Microsoft has done a fantastic job? Microsoft already told everything about the Series X, except the PRICE, because the current gen for them is over. If they dont do this nobody will talk about them, because they got nothing for this year, except average games and indie games and platform games... Until the launch of the series X...

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quenomamen1521d ago

This article brought to you via the deep pockets of MS.

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Father__Merrin1521d ago

Lol absolutely pathetic all they can push is an artificial "consumer approach" the entire generation they have let down Thier userbase wait till wait till wait till....same as the last days of 360 they cut software support same with Xbox OG they ditched the console.

Sony from start to finish have catered to gamers and gamers love it. Ps5 will be the console to own you can keep you "consumer approach" IL be sticking with Sony as will millions more.

Can't wait to see the 1st year figures and how consumer approach has worked

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timotim1520d ago

Artificial consumer approach? Explain please.

Play Anywhere
digital returns
games releasing on Windows 10
same games for their entire userbase for all games
mod support on their PC games
Smart Delivery
XGP

how is this artifical???

timotim1520d ago

Forgot to mention

Back Compat
Free enhancements to games we already own
Microsoft Rewards
Putting their games on Steam
Putting some of their games/IPs on Nintendo Switch including achievements

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Father__Merrin1520d ago

And from what you have listed the reason to buy an Xbox one X's is?

timotim1520d ago

To have a console that plays the vast majority of games the best❓❔

The topic is being the most consumer friendly though. I know you guys like to bring everything back to hardware sales but the two aren't synonymous...

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Donnie811521d ago

Because they are awesome!

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JayRyu1520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

Why the HATE?
MS is turning things around for the Xbox brand and with proof. They are buying game studios and said they are going to put out more first party content, Cross play for games, full backwards compatibility and more. They are building the XSX with all of features that games want.

That sounds consumer friendly to me.

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ziggurcat1520d ago

No they haven't.

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gangsta_red1520d ago

Care to explain?

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timotim1520d ago

Agreed. The moves they are making benefits...the players (pun intended).

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annoyedgamer1520d ago

This MS shilling is clearly paid promotion. I am an Xbox user and I can tell you first hand that Xbox is NOT consumer friendly. Its normie and censorship friendly though...

JayRyu1520d ago

I am a xbox user as well by the way. I own and have owned both xbox and playstation since the beginning.
So you're saying xbox is not consumer friendly okay, compared to who? Let me guess....Sony?

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Chevalier1520d ago

So free games like Fortnite being behind a paywall requiring Gold on Xbox is consumer friendly? When it's free to play on PS4, Switch and PC?

The monetization that Spencer talks about constantly is consumer friendly?

You guys have stupidly selective memories.

JayRyu1519d ago (Edited 1519d ago )

Sony charged 600 dollars for the ps3 because ...they were consumer friendly?

You might also be on the selectively stupid memories bus too!

Chevalier1519d ago

Thanks for proving my point about selective memories.

PS3 had built in wifi, bluray, 4 USB ports, built in hard drive, wireless controllers with built in batteries and was fully backwards compatible with PS1 and PS2 as well. Free online. Played all media types like avid, mp3, mp4 etc. No online paywall for Netflix etc

Whereas Xbox 360 you had to buy $100 adapter for wireless, buy battery kits for controllers to do recharging, HD drives that were $300 attachments, no 50 cent rubber bumpers to prevent disc scratching, RROD, limited BC, paid online, paywall just to use Netflix

Xbox also started monetization of DLC, 1 year exclusivity agreements and COD dlc paid to be kept off Playstation. Did you forget when Valve wanted free updates for Left 4 Dead which on PC was FREE and Microsoft said no you have charge for it on 360?

They might be getting more consumer friendly, but, Phil Spencer himself has talked about monetization for next gen already and paywalls for free games is NOT consumer friendly.

https://www.google.com/amp/...

I guess you forgot Sony tried to get cross play last gen and Xbox said no?

JayRyu1519d ago

Okay so here we go,

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Okay so here we go,
"PS3 had built in wifi, bluray, 4 USB ports, built in hard drive, wireless controllers with built in batteries and was fully backwards compatible with PS1 and PS2 as well. Free online. Played all media types like avid, mp3, mp4 etc. No online paywall for Netflix etc"

The PS3 bluray player did not need to be added nor was it a consumer requested feature. Sony put it in the system to play it's own supported dics medium which cost more money at that time. This was when it was competing with HD disc which was the cheaper option for consumers and that the ps3 did NOT support.
PS3 was backward compatible IN THE BEGINNING but Sony removed it so they could make a cheaper ps3 because the fat ps3 needed hardware built in to play older games. The PS3s new processor was not built to play older games. So anyone who got a PS3 mid generation could not play their ps1/ps2 games. Sony's solution for no BC?...paid streaming (PS now)

Sony's online free network was NOT good in the beginning. Remember when PSN kept on getting hacked? Sony had build up the net infrastructure, so the solution?...start charging for PSN.
They built in the wifi which made PS3 MORE expensive. If I didn't want to game online on my xbox I could choose that. Most of my 360 games in the beginning I played offline. My choice and made the online jump when I was ready.

HD drives on xbox were expensive IF you opted getting the largest amount 120GB. If you wanted you could go less, again MY choice. Unlike the 600 dollar PS3 that only had 60GB. Rubber bumpers (I can't believe you brought that up...lol), battery packs ect. All were 3rd party and were Not needed. You got to basically customize you xbox to what you could afford. Not so with the PS3.

I will say this to not have to rebutt all of your points. There are a lot of the things that Sony and MS have miss stepped on. In this moment though MS is pushing things that gamers want on their next system. They are listening to their customer base more now.

If you are criticizing MS about their strategy about monetizing next gen? They are a business! Sony will be following suit right behind them like they have already done. Paid DLC, paid1 year exclusives, improvement on paid for services like ps now streaming ect.

Futureshark1520d ago

MS media campaign in full swing now, hype and spin starting to reach maximum.
Shame they won't have any exclusives for 2 year's post launch, or isn't Old man Phil reminding us all of that little titbit?

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Donnie811520d ago

This is a no brainer! Nintendo is the most anti consumer company on earth and Sony isn’t far behind. Microsoft have really came a long way and the way they are investing in gaming nobody else in the business can compete.

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TheGamez1001520d ago

Because theyre dead last within the big 3 so ofc.

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ifrit_caress1520d ago

Hello Marty Sliva,

Please read this article: https://n4g.com/news/232826...

Then tell me that Xbox is consumer-friendly.

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TheHateTheyGive1520d ago

Why are free to play games locked behind xbox live? Why do kids need to put in their parents credit card information on the xbox to play free to play games (fortnite). on playstation you dont need to put any credit card info in order to play free to play games, you dont need plus.

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AK911520d ago

This sounds like the same thing they were doing for the XB1 launch and we all know how that turned out.

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ironmonkey1520d ago

Dead last and user friendly dont match. I would say sony and nintendo have that user friendly thing on top.

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RosweeSon1520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

No. Nice try actions speak louder that Pr stunts and spins. Great In all their other fields maybe being a gamer tho and only interested in games they been poor. To make out they the most friendly is just laughable. They weren’t very friendly when my Xbox got RROD again Mere months out of warranty. They also weren’t very friendly when they tried to block lending games to your friends. Nor when they refused to do GWG on Xb1 launch eventually bowing down to sheer pressure from their paying customers well. Of course they were the greatest thing in the world when they allowed cross play, they’d have done the same during 360 days when sales were neck and neck yeah?!, yeah right!! Lol the only reason they agreed to that is because the masses had jumped ship. Perceptions can be a funny old thing.

I also forgot the most consumer friendly thing they ever did. Start charging us to play online. £40+ a year to play games you’ve already paid to own and play on their systems you’ve already bought (how else can we charge them, I know £40+ a year for demos a week earlier than non paying customers 😑🤦🏻‍♂️ )
This was a free service on Dreamcast, Ps2/3 PSP/Vita. Wii/Wii U Switch for a short while ds/3ds and now thanks to Microsoft and their consumer friendly practices we’re now charged £50+ a year to play online. Consumer friendly my ass.

chiefJohn1171520d ago

Why you mad for? It say "HAS BECOME" they went from most anti consumer friendly to the most friendly. Give props were it's due.

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RosweeSon1520d ago

But it hasn’t, each to their own tho.

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chiefJohn1171520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

Definitely ain't Nintendo and definitely not Sony as of late so who is it? Google? 😆
nothing you said currently applies. Youre in so much denial you bring up last gen stuff and gave 0 argument for another being more friendly. 😌 But hey, as they say haters gonna hate

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RosweeSon1519d ago

I brought up last gen as there hasn’t been an awful lot to talk about this gen from Xbox but I guess you missed the bit about begrudgingly giving games on GWG that was this gen also like lending games to your friend was gonna be disallowed.. also this gen also massively unfriendly to their consumers. Itndoesnt currently apply because they changed it due to outrage give them an inch they’ll take £40 a year.

Godmars2901520d ago

Pity its in 3rd place then...

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fegam21520d ago

Its sad to read the fanboys posts from both sides. A true gamer likes to play great games no matter the console. To skip games because they are on play or xbox, ibecause you are a 1 console fanboy is just plain stupid and you should be ashamed to be called a gamer

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Bronxs151520d ago

Xbox is making a really strong play for next gen. Good on them. Good competition from so y has really forced them to step up their game. One can only hope Sony does the same.

jznrpg1520d ago

Lol , is this from The Onion ?

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Rhythmattic1520d ago

Yep... "Consumer Friendly"
Just like netflix, disney, Amazon..... All content playable on multiple devices.... But their own content available on other delivery services????

Ok.. Whatever... they couldn't make it stick in the Xbox , HARDWARE ecosystem... so just redefined the definition that Xbox is not a console, but a service...

So good on them....

Guess we just have to consider "Consumer Friendly" as the best way to get and play games......
This is what MS have been wanting to do decades ago... A central hub... A media device to rule them all....

But, alas... Im old school...... I use my Mac for Audio Post/Music/Film Composition (though have win10 on it for games... ) and its my daily driver......My PS4 Pro for gaming.... I guess im old school.... dedicated in design so to speak....

I wonder If MS will go that 1 step further and be more "Consumer Friendly"? Putting their games on Steam?
Haven't looked into it, they going to do this ?

Saranya1520d ago

It's Sony fans "Bait" articles.

Rhythmattic1520d ago

Yeh I guess... Just not a fan with GAAS...
Just Like Adobe, Avid, its becoming an industry norm....
Ill not subscribe unless I have no other choice.... Which I do now...
But the benefits are none with a subscription, they just gimp what is a perpetual License....
Theres more money to be made in subs, but as an end user, with for example Protools, They have gimped the person that owns the software outright, by stealth...
Subs are more likely to cost you more...
However... As for Gaming... A non MP game, you may play a few times... It wont be missed... But when there is a online game, with a sub on a sub.... Hmmmm.... Just thinking aloud......

Melankolis1520d ago

When a company lacks essential products to offer (games) compared to other companies, they should offer other thing that looks appealing to customers. Congrats to MS if they please Xbox fans this way.

As for Sony, i think you know where your strength lies, i will continue to be a customer as long as you offer great games from 1st or 3rd party as usual. Don't really care about cross-gen, BC, or anything else (i have TLOUS remasters-PS4 bundled- but i don't play it anyway, so many titles i haven't played, don't have time to revisit)...2-4 great exclusive games and other several 3rd party AAA games per year are more than enough for me.

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Zjet1520d ago

I play games not hardware

Rhythmattic1520d ago

No Xbox console required.
But, Im going to have to Buy a PS5..... Too many good games to miss out on...

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madpuppy1520d ago

MS is Great when it comes to making grand promises and being loud but, when it comes to ACTUALLY delivering, all they do is cough and awkwardly tug on their collective collars.

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_LarZen_1520d ago

Xbox and Microsoft have done great things for gamers. All it needs now to be one of the best platforms to game on is a selection of AAA console exclusives that will wow even the most hardcore PS fanboy.

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drunkenspy0071520d ago

I think the most important step xbox could have done was to get exclusive games. That seems to be the ultimate driving force when people choose consoles. Many of us have gaming PCs which xbox games are included on, so logic said go with ps4 for games you couldn't get any where else. Why I own a switch too, but no need for xbox.

WillyC0091520d ago

Sure seem to be a lot of MS puff pieces around here the last few days. Big effort to try and put a positive spin on the worst of the big 3. Not going to work.

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CR7JUVE18971520d ago

These guys deserve a lot of credit for the way they've started to turn things around. My first console of choice is Playstation, and it always will be.

That being said, I have also owned all of the Xbox models that have come out, with the exception of the S and the SAD.

For the first time since both companies have been making consoles, I am legitimately torn about which console to buy first.

Hungryalpaca1520d ago

MS heading in the right direction, now stop releasing stinkers and more titles and I may be interested again.

MADGameR1520d ago

Consumer-friendly this, consumer-friendly that. They can spin it how they want, they have not delivered a single AAA game to the X Box since 2015...and their own fanbase don't even care. That is why they will ALWAYS lose. Anti-consumer to their own fanbase and good at feeding the PC owners.

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Christopher1520d ago

Wasn't Gears 5 AAA??? Annual Forza games?

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FyBy1520d ago

MS started to fail (according to plans). Every gen, all console makers compared numbers of console sales. MS stopped with that, but started to compare LIVE accounts. Lot of things changed in xbox division and people started to understand, that they must be super friendly with gamers in the future. Thats all. MS had no choice then look like gamer friendly company or it would loose much more gamers. Its nothing abnormal. Every company, which is aiming for bottom is starting to be super friendly. But its good. MS can jump ahead of Sony and Sony will be the company, that will be super friendly to customers again. Every gen same principle. Starting to loose customers -> behave friendlier to them. Acquiring customers a lot -> bully customers. It doesnt matter if its Sony and Microsoft. Only Nintendo has its own same acces to customers even if they sell a lot and even if they sell little.

froy4021520d ago

So friendly that their going to push this gen through another 2 years after next gen arrives without taking full advantage of the SX...... .. . ? .. . !!

TrueRican691520d ago

This guy full of it. We still enjoying are ps4 and will enjoy are ps5 the xbox system an joke.

william_cade1520d ago

They haven't made a good new IP in a decade and sold everyone "a false bill of goods" (Arthur Morgan) ...consumer friendly.

Trueflames1520d ago

I smell fear everyone knows xbox is gonna rock 2020 and 2021 theres no holding back now

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KonaSquid1520d ago

that's what happens when you're losing. last gen it was sony. (free online, optional ps plus for discounts, cross buy, etc)

TheColbertinator1520d ago

Everyone loves Microsoft

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LucidIllusion1519d ago

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LordJamar1519d ago

Haters- there only doing it cause Their loseing they desperate

Me-ok that’s good glad their not giving up and trying to do better

Haters-uhh no games yeah no games!

Me-yeah that was a problem glad to see they got 15 new studios to help with that and going in the right direction.

Haters-but they have made mistakes and can’t ever get better or be forgiven.

Me-haha that’s silly and not how a business works they make mistakes and hopefully learn from then and strive to do better and keep our best interest which earns them more money.

Haters-um uh....um

Me-it’s ok buddy we are all gamers you should want all big 3 to be great we all win then. Let’s go play some games together

Friend-yeah that sounds nice 👍