PS5 And Xbox Series X Will Feature Fancy Graphics, But Will We See An Evolution In Gameplay?

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Rude-ro1524d ago

It comes down to game engines.. not so much the hardware..
Most game engines this gen from third party developers and the few titles Microsoft released were on ten year old engines with just more make up.

Sony spent this gen having their developers creating new engines. Polygon, naughty dog, guerrilla games, Santa Monica, etc all are ready to change things..

Sony has a vision too.
So that is a guaranteed investment because they are ready and third party games play on their console..

Microsoft... has a great marketing team And 9 years of nothing. 🤷🏻‍♀️😂

blackblades1524d ago

Sony should let 3rd party use there engines, I also curious what JP devs gonna do.

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Teflon021522d ago

Black blades
To an extent they already do. Naughty Dog and insomniac games have always been pretty open with sharing the tech they use publicly. GG shares the decima engine. Which made the new kojimagame death stranding. I think they don’t need to share the engines outside what benefits them. Why, not even because it gives Sony an advantage. But because if you have every game using Sony made engines and the tech specialized in them. It’ll be like how the unreal engine last gen got so stale and everyone started hating it half way through. With the moment ppl hearing a game was on the engine, you’d immediately think ohh no, not another generic game on that engine. This is why publishers and developers having unique engines is a great thing. DICE has a great engine that works great for Star Wars and Battlefield. But because the engine is made for that and large scale battles etc. It’s not as great when focused on smaller things and it isn’t a great engine for the average smaller game. When I see EA abuse the engine and put it on smaller games etc, I always immediately can tell and smh.
I just think companies need to be more willing to make there own engine. I think using and sharing some tech is the most that should be done. Like when insomniac did Resistance 2, the openly shared the water tech to let people use and improve.

That being said I would love a crack in time to be rereleased. That game was the greatest ratchet and clank of all time imo

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FanboysKiller1522d ago

Microsoft aren't that stupid to play the underdog with team blue , they know their stuff and can do their own things , you can't just assume things on Microsoft by being hypothetical , know their place.

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rainslacker1522d ago

Sony's API's and SDK allow for their tools to be integrated into 3rd party game engines or even publisher level game engines. A game engine doesn't have to be a specific game engine to use specific tools. It may require a bit of reworking of those tools.

In some cases, Sony does allow parts of their game engines to be adapted into other game engines, but most multi-plat games don't use them much because of the issues that come with porting to other systems, where Sony doesn't generally allow that code to work on other systems.

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terstomp1522d ago

Its not only game engines. Its innovation in input as well. ie controller design. At the moment, the controller is going to be the same as it has been for the last 20 years.

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purple1011524d ago

Ps5 adaptive trigggers. Nuff said..

Also... I think "dreams" just raised it... Gameplay wise... And it's current gen.

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gangsta_red1524d ago

A lot of changes we're seeing in current gen so late in these consoles cycles.

I suspect we won't see a lot of these gameplay "evolutions" with next until a later when developers have switched over full time to these consoles new specs.

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TheOptimist1524d ago

Meh.... Don't think so. It depends on mainstream gamers. I mean CoD hasn't changed since 2005 and we have passed 3 generations. So it depends on how low the mainstream audience sets the bar this time as well.

mrmikew20181524d ago

So true, I mean we can only hope these developers push boundaries when it comes to gameplay.

So it’s a wait and see thing.

isarai1524d ago

At the end of the day it's up to the devs, but next gen console's SSD and Zen2 CPUs certainly gives them a much higher ceiling to work with.

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Kribwalker1524d ago

The mid gen consoles reallly mitigated the difference from previous gen to upcoming gen. It won’t be the huge graphical leap and it will look more like something that would be available on current consoles with a graphic bump vs brand new experiences

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RememberThe3571522d ago

It felt to me like the PS4pro is what the PS4 should have been from day one, I love this thing. But even with how powerful the One X is both the PS5 and Series X still seem like they'll be fairly dramatic upgrades I'm terms of capabilities. I guess we'll see soon enough but I don't think it's too off base to get a bit excited for these new machines.

Kribwalker1522d ago

oh definitely the upgrades that are coming are exciting, which is why i’ll upgrade from my OneX to a SX. I want better framerate, faster load times etc, i also bought an elite controller, i typically like to spring for the better version. I just don’t think the upgrades next gen at the start will wow us like the ps2 to xbox 360 or snes to saturn/og PS.
That’s why i see them taking about cross gen games, the architecture is there, they’re basically set spec PC’s now, with way less overhead. It won’t be too difficult for them to scale the games, and they can still tap the existing user base

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mkis0071522d ago

The Zen Cpu alone will demolish those expectations, without even considering how ssd's as a standard will make it a two-headed attack.

Mark this post. The coming gen will show something game-play wise that couldn't begin to be worked in on current gen.

I keep thinking Portal, but on a much larger scope. Miles away instead of Meters.

Spartacus101523d ago

Depends on the devs.
The usual suspects will keep adding mobile-game style 'gameplay' to the UI instead of improving the actual game.

Jsm89k1523d ago

Unlikely, most games these days focus on being an fps.

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Casepb1522d ago

Actually this gen had the least FPS games ever for consoles. PS4 had Killzone and that was really the only 1st party game.

Vanfernal1523d ago

Next generation will bring nothing in upon itself... It's just hardware. It's up to the devs to innovate and push gameplay forward. What an odd line of questioning...

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Kribwalker1522d ago

exactly, which i why we are seeing MS say they will continue to support the current gen with their next gen games too, as there’s not a lot to add other then better resolutions, faster load times and shinier graphics.

Sony also said just as much with their recent investor calls
“ Sony executives are voicing patience about the next console’s pricing as they anticipate the transition to be a gradual one, said people familiar with its day-to-day operations. Many of the games launched for the PlayStation 5 will also be available to play on the predecessor machine, so revenue from software and related network services is expected to keep the business performance intact. ”

Why cut off 100 million users when most of what is coming can be scaled back like a PC for the older consoles. That’s why they went to a X86 architecture and had mid gen refreshes. It’s a different launch then we’ve ever seen, but some people struggle to wrap their heads around that

CrimsonWing691523d ago

Yes, in fact improvements in AI, environmental design, Physics Based Rendering, destructible environments, etc will probably be more noticeable than graphics fidelity.

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Gameplayer11522d ago (Edited 1522d ago )

You're always out for something new? To me...this new generation is all about the immersion of the games....how it plays,looks and how the story is told....I can't understand why there always have to be something new? What to you want? A robotic hand that feeds you while playing?? A vr headset that vibrates when you fire at something? No...to me it's about how good a game is presented,no need for something "new" gameplay-wise!

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2ndhandcorn1522d ago

No it will be the same crap lol .

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silenthillstrangler1522d ago (Edited 1522d ago )

It's all up to the Devs.
We already know which Devs are capable of evolvution but Will we see Ubisoft and Bethesda for instance continue to pump out the same uninspired monotonous thing theyve been doing for the last 6 years or will they evolve with the power?
It really is up to them because this time they truly have a significant leap in power across the board to make some amazingly deep games....they just have to choose to do it.

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thtruth5741522d ago

What exactly is and an evolution of gameplay supposed to be? VR, no hands, Kinect, more NPCs, more houses to go into in an RPG or....? I don't know what people are wanting. I mean some sort of electronic condom thing would be cool so I could feel it during the sex cut scenes or something but I mean what else are people expecting.

silenthillstrangler1521d ago

I'm glad you arent making any games.

sprinterboy1522d ago

We haven't seen a evolution in gameplay since 2003 so I hope so, cause if nxt gen is just 4k but rinse and repeat then I'll be a tad disappointed in that regards.

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TheOptimist1522d ago

Rocket League or rather Super Acrobatic..... Cars says "Hi"

sprinterboy1522d ago

Both awesome/great games but that's hardly a rinse and repeat game from 2003, in fact there're the only 2 car car footie games I can think of.
I'm on about the same old looter shooters, same old side quests, same old farcry, same old assassins creed, same old cod, battlefield type games etc.

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badz1491522d ago

Dreams...doesn't ring a bell?

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TheOptimist1522d ago

Tbh..... You'll need to be picky with the games. I mean if you look at Furi or Copy Kitty or some other obscure games, there are enough innovative games. If you stick with mainstream gaming, forget trying to find innovation in the Ubisoft, Microsoft, EA, Activision or someone along those lines. Sony does occasionally do something like dreams, but that's a one off. Others are the same old boring stuff of 'emotional storytelling' and shallow gameplay.

If you want innovation or even experimentation, follow the indie scene.

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masterfox1522d ago

better visuals can provide better more enrich gameplay.

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sprinterboy1522d ago

Not if you doing the same old side quests like go down to the river and find my husband, oh look at the awesome nxt gen water oh a wolf to kill, oh I'm bored of this side quest nxt oh the same side quest

QuePasa871522d ago

I'd like to eventually see the pro controller extra on both consoles as standard at least

GameStallion1522d ago

Hopefully we will finally see good enemy ai.

DaniMacYo1522d ago (Edited 1522d ago )

There will definitely be an evolution in gameplay. I’m sure of it. Studios are developing awesome games for next gen as we speak and I think they will blow us away. But it does depend on who is making them. I’d say the usual big hitters that always produce the AAA blockbusters.

Morbid Bulldozer1522d ago

Current gen did nothing new gameplay-wise, I don't expect next-gen to be different.

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_LarZen_1522d ago

Not hard to say yes to that.

Miacosa1522d ago

Hardware can only facilitate the gameplay but the Evolution will have to come from the game software that is in development and not necessarily the hardware manufacturer.

ajax171522d ago (Edited 1522d ago )

I really just want smarter enemy a.i.

GameStallion1522d ago

Good article.

AK911522d ago

No but it might streamline the gameplay (that might be a good or bad thing), remasters of old PS2/OG Xbox games and even early PS3/360 games feel outdated and janky in comparison to newer games the same thing might happen to current gen games once the next gen arrives.

KillBill1522d ago

Did we see an evolution in gameplay from PS4 and Xbox 360 to this Gen gaming? No. So why should we expect it next Gen?

Shalawsorchi1522d ago

i Might have to wait 1-2 years to buy next gen, most of the launch games will probably look current gen.

badz1491522d ago

F*** it's this thing again! what gameplay evolution is these crappy journalists are looking for?? if it's not broken, why fix it? plus, if you want something different, there are VR games out there you can always play instead. OR...there is always Nintendo LABO. they just wanna find a reason to downplay and rate down next-gen games in reviews just like they did Killzone SF when it launched with the PS4 back in 2013!

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aaronaton1522d ago

You will on PS5 exclusives but probably won't on Xbox and 3rd party exclusives. Simply because the Xbox division want to release multiple consoles and still have future content compatible with the Jaguar CPU.

Miss_Vixen1522d ago (Edited 1522d ago )

Maybe not so much as an evolution but you can be sure Sony’s diversity variety of first & 2nd party games will delivery a great gaming experience. They’ve been doing so since the Psone era.

Nintendo too.

terstomp1522d ago

Evolution in gameplay is improvements and innovation in game engines and controller/input designs.
And at the moment, from Sony and Microsoft, all I see is more of the same.

ShadowWolf7121522d ago

Well, the new features in the PS5 controller certainly do have the potential to add new dimensions to it, anyways.

Max_Eckhardt1522d ago

I for one am sick of playing the same games with a fresh lick of paint.

DarXyde1522d ago

The haptic feedback in the PS5 as well as the trigger designs seems to heavily imply that what is traditional won't FEEL traditional. Far more immersive. There is also the advent of PSVR2, which looks to completely overhaul the experience. We also don't know all the DualShock 5 can do yet either.

I'd say it's safe to say that we will have an evolution in one capacity or another.