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Has a year of updates finally made Gran Turismo Sport worth playing?

In the year since its release, Gran Turismo Sport has seen quite a few substantial updates. A new career mode, more tracks, a crapton of cars and even microtransactions: Sport is a much heartier title than its 2017 incarnation. Even with those additions, though, the core of the game still feels off.

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sammarshall1022014d ago

I'm still waiting for the update that allows me to save my progress offline and unfortunately it will probably never come

WickedLester2014d ago

Boo hoo! Are you ever offline that this is a real issue for you or are you just complaining to complain?

jagermaster6192014d ago

Maybe he is, why is that a problem?

darthv722013d ago (Edited 2013d ago )

Well what do you do if your internet is down and really want to play this game? With no access to the cloud save you are pretty much screwed.

Lets flip that coin for a moment and look at another cloud based save situation. 360 games on the xbo do not allow for local save files (but og xbox games do... weird) so if you play any 360 bc games on the xbo, your save files are in the cloud as well.

It's a bloody drag they went that route but then again I dont play any 360 games on my xbo. i have a 360 for that. People with ps4 and this game... they dont have a choice.

Skankinruby2013d ago

While your arrogance is laughable I must say the whole 'what if your internet goes out?' pitch is exhausting now as console gaming is predominantly online in one way or another.

sprinterboy2013d ago

Maybe he lives in a area without Internet and wanted to buy gts? Or maybe he has learning difficulties and social behaviour problems like my mum and dads adoption kid who's not aloud on the Internet (social services) but loves car games

sammarshall1022013d ago (Edited 2013d ago )

I'm offline a lot when I play games

The option to play a campaign offline should always be an option

Muzikguy2013d ago (Edited 2013d ago )

I'm offline!

@skankinruby

No, it's not. There are so many single player OFFLINE games released that gaming isn't predominately online in any shape or form. Unless you mean that multiplayer only games are predominantly online then yes

nix2013d ago

The game initially came out as a multiplayer game. It's FIA so, they have the right to get strict so that players don't cheat. That's why every thing had to be constantly saved online. Remember those GT 5/6 days where you can download other people's saves and get all the cars. People can do same with qualifying.

As for the "campaign", it was an after thought after the people who bought it knowing it was full online only game started complaining. So stop bringing this topic up because you knew what you bought knowingly and thought Polyphony will fix it later for you.

Smok912013d ago

WickedLester, your post is only complaining.

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IRetrouk2014d ago

It is a feature they could do with looking at, its really not bad though, only time you notice is when there is maintenance. Kaz did say it was to stop modders/cheats from being able to fake times or get other advantages.

Goldby2013d ago

probably as well to keep obscene liveries out of the FIA

ninsigma2013d ago

Yeah the no offline saving is dumb as hell and needs to be changed. Like who thinks it's a good idea to say I can't save my progress when not connected to the Web?? I haven't even played the online mode!

rainslacker2013d ago

Game was predominately a mp game to begin with, so likely it wasn't really an issue. Would be nice if the sp campaign didn't require it. But all the license tests and of course mp progression is connected to the online aspects of the game, so why are offline saves really relevant to that.

dragonyght2013d ago

well, you guys are pretty screw Next Gen -_-

gravedigger2013d ago (Edited 2013d ago )

GTS is worth playing since launch because superior online racing. Just because of that.

@sammar

Online racing is where the REAL COMPETITION is. Never had so much fun in online racing. So, of course you can't save online progress when you're offline. And also, FIA demands it, if you didn't know.

michaelknight352013d ago (Edited 2013d ago )

Im still waiting for the weather update if it ever comes to GT Sports

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IRetrouk2014d ago

The games been worth playing from day 1, ridiculous the amount of hate this game got, people forgot the most important thing in a racing game is how it feels on the track, people concentrated on the car numbers, and the different career mode, while forgetting that it was always billed as an online gt.

purple1012014d ago

Nice comment.. I agree. Had some on the best racing I've ever had on this game. Continues to get better.

ApocalypseShadow2014d ago

The problem is that most gamers today fear the discipline of real driving. They think it's boring and "Unvideogamey"(just made a new word.) And have gone back to arcade racing because it's easy. They want flash and confetti.

As parris said below, "Kool-aid man racing." Just look at Sony's competitor online. They attack GT about bumper cars. But their competitor's sim? has gamers crashing into each other left and right online. It's a known problem that hasn't been addressed. They're so used to crashing in the open world game, they don't know how to drive properly in the supposed sim.

Since GT is still regarded as the console driving simulator to own and backed by a real governing body, their competitor is now going to start over for their next game and trying to build it into a real sim because it still doesn't have GT's respect.

Kribwalker2014d ago

Actually, the console driving simulator to own would be the project cars series. Higher rated, more content, backed by people in the racing industry as well
“Created by gamers, tested by world-class racing drivers from Team SMS-R, and the definitive choice of Esports pros... Project CARS 2 captures the essence of real racing in the most beautiful, intense, authentic, and technically-advanced racing game on the planet”

GT Sport is still just a shell of what GT games should be, and it’s apparent consumers agree, as it’s been one of the worst performing GT games in the series, commercially and critically. It took them 9 months to hit just 5 million players, not copies sold, and this game use to sell like gangbusters.

It was even beaten by Forza 7 in reviews and content as well, another game you are trying to dog

Prince-Ali2013d ago (Edited 2013d ago )

@Kribwalker

loooooooooooooooooooooooool!! !!! You get worse by the day bro lool... but whatever helps you sleep at night :-)... you CLEARLY have no idea what you're talking about because what you said damn near has nothing to do with his initial comment.. but you carry on being dumb *thumbs up*

darthv722013d ago

It's a real shame all that time went into creating the game we got because it is not a GT game other than in name. PD should really take a break from GT and use the time to reflect on making the game more approachable to players like they traditionally had done. They have alienated players with their new ideas but they could just use this as a learning experience of what works and what doesnt. The GT series has had its ups and downs. This one is just one of the downs so that means their next should be an up. Maybe even bring back the numbering system for the real GT7.

In the meantime, I'd love them to dip their toe in resurrecting a classic like omega boost.

IRetrouk2013d ago

Pc 2 is nowhere near as good as gt sport, not even slightly, and the amount of content between the two games is actually far similar, graphics are worse, physics are worse, the only racing game with real world backing is gt... Gt sport is more than just a name, the physics and actual driving has not been matched yet this gen, you bring up forza again, and sales, but forget that every forza motorsport has sold less and less with each release, has a motorsport even reached gt 5 prologue numbers?
I see a lot of people talk about gt sport without playing it, gt sport is the first game made with the new engine, they dont need a break they need time to be able to now add to the engine just like turn 10 did with 5, 6 and 7, either way you spent a year talking this game down while ive been playing it for a year and having a blast, but hold on, its got no content, how have i played it for a year?? Oh must be the free cars and tracks every month...

docfranken22013d ago

@Krib

Do you actually enjoy making yourself look stupid?

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sampsonon2013d ago

the industry is over run by casuals, that's the problem.

SierraGuy2013d ago

Looks way better than horizon 4 if you ask me and Motorsport.

Kiwi662013d ago

And others will say that Forza is better than GT Sport so who really wins in that argument

rainslacker2013d ago

All I really care about is the driving. I think gt:s offers up some of the best driving simulation available. Forza is fun, but in a different way. Graphics are fine on both, and when you're actually racing, all those little graphics tweaks really don't make much difference be sure I'm not paying attention to them.

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parris2014d ago

If you want realistic racing and not a game where you crash through walls like the Kool-aid man, then absolutely.

jagermaster6192014d ago

Don't try and talk bad about fh4 because you know that game is waaay better!

Kribwalker2014d ago

gotta deflect somehow right

Atticus_finch2014d ago

It isn't a way better simulator.

Gunstar752013d ago

Oh dear. Don't compare GT to FH. I'm embarrassed for you.

InMyOpinion2013d ago

Hard to compare, but as a PS4 only owner who loves GT Sport I'd still swap it for FH4 in heartbeat if I could. Both great games though.

AmUnRa2013d ago

Yeah FH4 is an arcadegame and GTS is far from that, its a driving simulator from the start of the Gran Turismo franchise.

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Kribwalker2014d ago (Edited 2014d ago )

“"Even with all of these additions to the core game, GT Sport is still just limp. Really and truly, I think Gran Turismo’s days are well behind it. It would take a radical re-invention of the series to bring it up to speed for whatever Sony’s next console ends up being. If GT Sport 2 is just this game but with more that really won’t be good enough. More content is nice, but an actual reason to interact with that content would be better. That is truly what is missing from GT Sport and always has been."

Ouch. Well it is barely in the rear view mirror of Forza but hopefully next gen Polyphony can learn from their competitors and deliver a racing title that matches Forza quality

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parris2014d ago (Edited 2014d ago )

If you say so... but Turn 10 just announced they are rebuilding Forza 7 to try to match the realism GT Sport provided.

If all you want is unrealistic racing that doesn't even try to replicate the actual sport in any shape or form then Forza has you covered, if you want realistic racing that real racing clubs and police forces use to train that can get you a real FIA license then GT Sport is the better game.

Silly gameAr2013d ago (Edited 2013d ago )

How are those Forza sells coming along? Do racing fans buy that game the way they buy GT yet?

I'm not a racing fan, so I'm not sure about how that goes. A person would kind of think that a quality racing game like Forza, would overtake GT. Why hasn't it? Why does it seem like it's only hardcore MS fanboys and the gaming media that hold Forza in such high regard?

Switch4One2013d ago

Silly that's a stupid question. Playstation has more than double the fan base, let's start there.
GT has a deeper legacy with PS fans who traditionally buy more racing games.
Finally, sales are not a measure of quality, they are a measure of SALES.
Why do you fanatics like questioning reviews only when they don't line up with your agenda?
How is it that the media gets it right with The Last of Us, Uncharted, Spider-Man, Horizon Zero Dawn and the likes but suddenly they are wrong/biased when it comes to Forza and GT?

Get out of here with that weak a** nonsense.

Gunstar752013d ago

@silly game at
I assume you mean "sales"....
Xbox has 4 (Or is it 5) Forza games to choose from, you have 1 GT game. We can dip in a d dip out if the franchise on xbox one, you had No other option. Plus there is twice the installed user base on PS4.

So shove your "sells" where the son dunt shine

IRetrouk2013d ago (Edited 2013d ago )

Ill give you a reason to interact with the content......hold on its a shocker......pick a car, then a track and race other people😱 crazy that eh? Your view on gt means very little krib, you haven't played it, every issue reviewers had is gone, more tracks, more cars and a traditional single player, you can repeat what others say till you are blue in the face, gt in forzas rearview? Gt is still more popular, is played more and has waaay more backing in the industry, forzas good, gts drives well ahead on track though.

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King_Noctis2014d ago

Maybe you forget that MS also have a sim racing on top of an arcade one.

rainslacker2013d ago (Edited 2013d ago )

Their sim racer isn't as good as their arcade one, and their sim racer is really lacking in proper physics by comparison.

Gt:s became more arcadey with its release, but not in the physics, only in terms of how one could modify their car....Even though there is still.plenty of that available.

King_Noctis2013d ago

FM7 got 87 on Metacritic, while GTS got 75. While not as good as FH4, FM7 is not exactly a bad game compared to GTS you know.

rainslacker2013d ago

I don't think FM is bad by any means. I just think that GT:S does much better on the driving physics front.

Horizon is really good though. Obviously, it's more an arcade racer, but it is a lot of fun, so I like it for different reasons that I like GT.

And most of the criticism over GT that brought it down was because people were rating it like a regular GT game, instead of the game they were trying to make, which was an online competitive racer. They knocked it heavily for having fewer cars, and not having a campaign mode. This is despite the fact that they said the driving was great. It was another victim of reviewers wanting it to be something it wasn't.

WickedLester2014d ago

Great game that continues to get better and better. Dynamic day/night cycles and weather would be nice and some more metropolitan tracks would be great too. Other than that I really have no other complaints. Just a very well executed racing sim.

doggo842013d ago

Xbox fanboy - sucks to be you.

343_Guilty_Spark2012d ago

I have a PS4....only fanboys are those that swear by one and don’t give the other console a chance.

Sea of Thieves sucked Days Gone looks awful

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Gran Turismo Sport Has Been Delisted From PS Store

Sony Interactive Entertainment has delisted Gran Turismo Sport from the PlayStation Store as of January 1, 2024.

ApocalypseShadow109d ago

The great digital future. Where games vanish. The benefits of digital just aren't enough over physical to every buy in 100 percent. Especially when my Atari games still work and can be played to this day over 40 years later. Some of these digital games don't even last a whole generation.

purple101109d ago

But in this case everyone who has it still has it

And they unlocked single player to be allowed to progress offline

ApocalypseShadow108d ago (Edited 108d ago )

But in the case of others, they can no longer can buy it or any delisted game. Just like online only games that get their servers turned off and there's no update for offline with bots.

If you like the idea of any digital game being delisted where it's no longer available at all, then you and others are fools. What's all that presentation bullshit guys like you spew?

There should be no reason any digital game should be removed. Ever.

Bathyj108d ago

Apocalypse no one likes it. But let's be clear here.

If you own the game, you still own it. All that's happening here is they are stopped selling it.

Why? I have no clue. But it's the exact same thing if your local best buy isn't stocking the disc anymore and Sony aren't making any more. Same thing, just in the digital realm.

If you want to complain about servers for an online game being shut down, go ahead. But that's a separate topic and can happen to any online game even with a physical disc.

fan_of_gaming107d ago (Edited 107d ago )

@Bathyj "But it's the exact same thing if your local best buy isn't stocking the disc anymore and Sony aren't making any more. Same thing, just in the digital realm."

It isn't the exact same thing at all. When a game gets a physical release, it is always available even if big-box retailers aren't selling it new anymore. For example, I can go on eBay today and buy a new & sealed copy of Transformers: Fall Of Cybertron for PS3, because it once had a physical release. However I cannot buy a copy of Transformers: Fall Of Cybertron for PS4 today, because it had a digital-only release and was delisted.

If Gran Turismo Sport had a digital-only release, it would be unavailable for anyone to buy ever again. But because it had a physical release, in 5 years someone that wants to play it can still acquire it.

Cacabunga107d ago

People should stand against digitalization

purple101107d ago (Edited 107d ago )

I have only brought one or two digital games in my life
Everything I buy is physical

Often from eBay in perfect condition.
Sometimes from a online shop in uk such as

365games
Shopto.net
Simplygames
Base.com

All, who will ship disk to your door on day of release, cheaper than buying from digital store.

Then I either keep, lend, or sell. My choice

No where, did I say I support digital. And yet someone even called me a fool,
Haha
Totally misunderstood, some would say, he’s the fool

With GtSport It ISNT being taken away from anyone who already owns it. So this has all got out of hand with people not even reading the article

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DigitallyAfflicted108d ago

Maybe this will make people realise the future of digital-only games

purple101108d ago

This one won’t though
Because it’s not de-listed and taken away from you
It’s just not on sale anymore and the multiplayer will be shut down soon I reckon. It released 2017 so it’s had a fair run of 5 years online multiplayer lobbies

DigitallyAfflicted108d ago

@Purple, but it could be taken away, like p.t. Demo was, as well is taken away from anyone who didn't purchase GTsport in a digital form and yes I know we can still buy disc version and it's not a big of a deal.

My point is that you can't own something if it's not physical, with digital-only content you pay for the right to download and use and possibly in the future there will be some laws regulating you rights to it…

blackblades108d ago

I mean y'all been whining about that since the ps3 era. To this day im still able to play all the games I payed for.

ApocalypseShadow108d ago (Edited 108d ago )

It won't. Fools like purple think that just because they can still download it now, that it's safe. I've bought multiple games on console and mobile that are no longer downloadable or function. Because the game was either delisted or since it was connected to the Internet, no longer works because the servers were shut down turning those games into coasters. With no update to be able to play some games offline with bots. They're gone.

He won't get it or care until it happens to him and some of his games are delisted and removed or don't work any more even if he "bought it "

EvertonFC108d ago (Edited 108d ago )

If you don't keep your old consoles, your physical disk will be useless too. Do you think console hardware or disk drives will be around in 20 years. Good luck with that.
I'm not saying it's right btw, just pointing out to the physical crowd that digital and physical are very alike when it comes to actually being able to play the games in the future like 20 years time.
When I'm in my care home, I don't expect to be able to play my old digital or physical collection as consoles won't be around or disk drives for playstation.
Unless your keeping the old consoles safe in the attic over time, nobody will be playing there old physical game collections.

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EvertonFC108d ago

If you bought a physical launch day copy of GTS you still won't be able to download any of the updates in 20 years when servers are off.
Plus there will be no such thing as a disk drive or a hardware box for that matter in 20 years unless you keep your old consoles.
My point is sadly your physical or digital copy won't work.

Barlos108d ago (Edited 108d ago )

I see this as the digital equivalent of physical games going out of print. They don't continue to make copies forever, at some point they will stop making it, usually when sales dry up and I guess for GT sport that happened some time ago. Also, in the digital world, storage space is not infinite. If a game is no longer selling, why would they waste space on keeping it available?

For those that already own the digital version, they will still have access to it.

frostypants107d ago

I generally agree, but GT Sport is primarily an online game. They probably have some reluctance to deal with the blowback of selling an online-oriented game that may not have active servers much longer. Admittedly that's a whole other issue in itself.

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Father__Merrin108d ago

Online based titles like this I wouldn't expect to last forever as the game has been updated iterations as in gt7

Same with if FIFA 20 was delisted as example there's update to game. If something like Uncharted collection was delisted then that's something that's bad

Agent75107d ago

You pay stupid money for digital games and DLC, then it goes missing. Who's laughing?

shinoff2183107d ago

Physical games for yet another win.

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Gran Turismo Sport End of Online Services

On January 31, 2024, at 06:00 UTC, the online services of the PlayStation®4-exclusive software “Gran Turismo Sport” will come to an end.

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shadowT207d ago (Edited 207d ago )

Time to get a PS5! New PS5 owners in the USA can currently claim a game for free, but GT7 is not part of this promotion.

purple101207d ago

GT sport was good. Gt7 is better.

For someone who was crap at racers (and still is) and only played kart racers with powerups, I can say GT sport and gt7 balance SIM/ arcade racing to perfection. Easy enough for anyone to play and not crash but with enough depth to master for years.

Totally different to need for speed / Forza handling where the cars feel 'floaty'.

The dualsense is just supreme with gt7 toi

badz149207d ago

So...will they enable offline saves now or what?

VariantAEC202d ago

From Gran-Turismo.com (the article liked above): "All existing cars and personalized Car Settings kept in Garage will be accessible. Gameplay progression required as normal to unlock additional cars and items."

So... yes, as far as I can tell you'll still be able to use all your collected and purchased cars and race on all the tracks in the game and unlock ones you might not already have access to. That's what I'm getting from the post, but time will tell if this actually comes to pass February 1st, 2024.

Agent75207d ago

After Turismo 4 on the PS2, the series was never the same. Although Turismo 4 wasn't a finished game and didn't play as good as Turismo 3. Turismo 5 on PS3 was a mess, Turismo 6 was Turismo 5 finished. Sport on PS4 was another mess, especially VR mode. Sort of back on track with Turismo 7, but so tiring as with the Forza series. Anyone remember the PSP version that had no championship mode? Turismo has always been average at best.

OmegaSoldati206d ago

Thats why i dont like online only games. Cant believe this, this game sold so well. You need to be a fanboy to keep supporting Sony after this. Bought this thinking that it would take 10 years for this. I'm lucky that there are enough classics and single players for a life time.

VariantAEC202d ago

Looks like PD has the potential to set the bar for closing out always online games.
Back when GT Sport launched you couldn't do anything when you couldn't access the servers, but it looks like GT Sport will retain access to SP race modes, custom races, VR, your full garage, and all tracks. This is much more than what was available at launch if offline.

We still will lose custom liveries and race suits, which is nonsense, but hey if you share them online now they will be in the cloud and available to you in GT7 if you're interested. Basically, we lose MP, but players keep everything we earned and whatever was paid for.

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GranTurismo World Series 2022 | World Finals | Nations Cup | Regional Finals

30 of the world's top GT drivers arrive in Monaco after a highly competitive 2022 Series. They must now navigate a regional qualifying group featuring drivers from their home regions for a place at the Grand Final.
12 drivers from each respective group including the top three from Asia-Oceania, Americas, and Europe/Middle East/Africa groups, and the top three from the Repechage will qualify for the Grand Final.

Agent75207d ago

After Turismo 4 on the PS2, the series was never the same. Although Turismo 4 wasn't a finished game and didn't play as good as Turismo 3. Turismo 5 on PS3 was a mess, Turismo 6 was Turismo 5 finished. Sport on PS4 was another mess, especially VR mode. Sort of back on track with Turismo 7, but so tiring as with the Forza series. Anyone remember the PSP version that had no championship mode? Turismo has always been average at best.