This is what has me worried (for want of a better word) about TDKR. I have been a fan of Hardy since his epic performance in Bronson but I don't know if the character itself will give him the chance to be better than Heath Ledgers Joker. The Joker had it all; wit, viciousness, anarchic, etc. I'm not sure if Bane has the same range. In a nutshell, I don't know if TDKR will beat TDK because everytime I watch TDK I realise more and more that I am watching it because of the Joker and Ledgers performance. Take that away and its just a good crime film.

@asmith2306 I agree with what you say TDK was all about the Joker he made that film and out did Batman but then again I never though the Heath Ledger could out do Jack Nicholson as the Joker but he did and imo did it even better than Jack.

I have liked what has been done with the Batman reboot and the only comic film ive got hyped for as spider man, Hulk ect I have not enjoyed so this is part of the reason im going to wait for the Avengers to come on DVD as im still un sure as ive not thought any of the films from the charters in the Avengers were amazing films.

As for who will make more Money I see TDKR making more money on the Opening weekend as the hype the Movie is getting at the moment is getting more people I talk to excited about TDKR than the Avengers.

No, because the batman movie is designed to pump your blood towards your brain you see.

im glad they didnt. catwoman is not the main villain and imo i dont even like her catwoman, she is cheesy and useless. and like the two films before it, the movie would likely be better without a female character at all. the two low point of BB and TDK imo were its female leads.

that said, i think TDK will do incredibly well but come in at the 170-180 range. i think its going to be a long time until the avengers gets beaten.

I want to be clear here when I say 3D gives it a huge advantage. I don't mean that people want to see The Avengers because it's in 3D, people want to see the movie but they're going to have to pay extra because it's in 3D.

I sure had no intentions of bashing any characters. If I can clarify this point as well, I meant more the fact that everyone knows who The Joker is. However with Bane like I said, an awesome character, with mass audience I feel like less people actually know who he is compared to The Joker.

I think the DK got a lot of free press due to the death of Heath Ledger and this took the movie to a whole new height.

Spoke to a lot of friends after the hype had died and a lot of us felt hype had a big part to play. Joker was played well, but was nothing like the joker in terms of gags n pranks n jokes. He was just a psychopath in make up.

I dont think they will be able to pull the same amount of hype in for DKR. Saying that though, this dont mean it will do bad, but just not as good as the Avengers I think.