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Spider-Man cancellation is Disney's fault, not Sony's

Marvel/Disney have failed to extend their Spider-Man licensing deal after negotiation with Sony went south. Tom Holland won't be returning as Spidey in MCU.

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BrownRanger92d ago

it's Sony's IP. Disney had no right to demand. They messed this up.

Ace32692d ago

It isn't Sony's IP. Sony has the film license for Spider-Man. Marvel still owns Spider-Man so if anything Sony is holding Spider-Man film license hostage.

Prince-Ali92d ago

Nah that's LITERALLY not how it works or business in general ... lool Disney fucked this one up!

Allsystemgamer92d ago

Sony owns the film RIGHTS to Spider-Man. There’s no hostage taking. Marvel sold it to them. They own it.

bradfh92d ago

Sony saved spider-man if Disney was going to make him gay.

zodiac90992d ago

@Ace326 Were you born yesterday? Sony has held the rights for this film IP for more than 15 years now..

killswitch8091d ago

Why are people down voting Ace326 they are the only person that said it correctly . They have timed license agreement and if they do not make Spider-man in a set amount of years they lose the license. This is what happened back in the 90s a studio rushed to make a Fantastic Four film so they would not lose the license.

Chevalier91d ago

" Why are people down voting Ace326 they are the only person that said it correctly . They have timed license agreement and if they do not make Spider-man in a set amount of years they lose the license. This is what happened back in the 90s a studio rushed to make a Fantastic Four film so they would not lose the license."

All Sony has to do is prove they have a movie in development and they retain their license indefinitely though. With Spiderverse 2 already in development, Venom 2 and all the other Spiderman characters like Black Cat, Silver Sable movies in development already there's ZERO chance Sony will lose Spiderman.

Disney has no power in these negotiations. Same with why there are no solo Hulk movies because Universal has those rights. Disney wants more to go from taking 5% to 50% when Sony's movies make the same worldwide compared to Disneys Spiderman movies why would Sony agree to that?! Amazing Spiderman made almost as much as Homecoming did worldwide so there's no reason to believe they can't again.

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SodoBot92d ago

Anyone knows when Sony lose the license?

2pacalypsenow92d ago

They would have to not make a Spider Man movie for like 5 years I believe.

TricksterArrow92d ago

Does this count animated movies? Because I think they can go on forever with those. There's absolutely endless possibilities.

Ace32692d ago

Essentially never. The rerelease of Far From Home will start the 5 year cycle over. Venom 2 is in development and I believe that also counts towards the license.

Chevalier91d ago

They also have Silver Sable/Black Cat and Spiderverse 2 already in development too.

kevinsheeks91d ago

unfortunately as long as they make one even if trash they have it forever essentially :(

ImGumbyDammit91d ago (Edited 91d ago )

A few ways that I know of. I am sure there are many more as part of the deal:
1. There is time limit that must make a movie (full feature not a 30 minute cartoon) every X years (5 years I believe)

2. If the Sony Pictures is sold the rights revert back to Marvel. So say Google or Apple buys Sony itself or just buys the Sony Pictures. Google or Apple forfeits the right to have Spider-Man as part of that studio purchase.

3. Decency and character violations. Sony makes other characters usage not as part of the licensing or violates canon. Marvel can sue and recover the IP for damages. Sony cannot say make Peter Parker the porn movie or change Peter Parker to be a slasher film if it is not canon to the character(s) in the first place. Violating these again can return use of the IP back to Marvel.

mkis00791d ago

"So,in essence Marvel did not make anything different from these past two movies then they did with the movies where Sony did all the work and made mostly crappy Spider-Man movies (and movies that mostly lost money) . "

Not a single Sony Spiderman movie has lost money... In fact, just the domestic gross from each movie alone has put them in the black.

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zodiac90992d ago

How empty is your life for this news to affect you that much??

Deadpoolio92d ago

Yeah because clearly Sony are intelligent and not going to deal with Disney's crap....Sony 100% financed the Spider-man films, and gave Disney 5% of the box office....Disney also got 100% of the films merchandising rights and 100% of the money that the merchandise makes.....

There is no universe where Disney deserves 50% of the profits, when they put in ZERO dollars, let Sony finance it all yet give them nothing for the merchandise and, nothing for the MCU films that Spider-man has appeared in....Greedy Disney looking to be greedy again....

Just like how they change things in Star Wars to avoid paying Lucas royalties, and refuse to make a solo Hulk film because Universal has to be atleast asked IF they want to distribute it.....Gotta love Disney can't make all the money for something so they would rather make nothing....

MIDNIITE_Z3RO92d ago

Disney's other properties make so much money, that's why they can afford to try and make moves like this, come out with nothing, and still be ok. Kinda sucks, but I already know where Sony is gonna go with this. Gonna do a Venom-Spidey film for sure now. I'd be surprised if that doesn't go down.

ImGumbyDammit91d ago (Edited 91d ago )

The did not give 5% of the box office. That is patently false. As part of the original Marvel deal Marvel gets 5% of the first days take. Not 5%of a weeks revenue and not 5% of the overall revenue of the movie. They get 5% of the Sony's first day take. With or without any deal Marvel will still get that same 5% first day take.

So,in essence Marvel did not make anything different from these past two movies then they did with the movies where Sony did all the work and made mostly crappy Spider-Man movies (and movies that mostly lost money) . Just with these last two movies Marvel did all the work, Sony paid the bills and Marvel still only took the same 5% of Sony's first day box office take.

And 50% of the box office that would be in a deal where Disney is also paying 50% of a films overall expense (50% of the production, 50% of the marketing cost). So please don't make things up and say Disney would be putting in zero dollars for 50% of the revenue. For film that cost $300 million Disney would be putting in a $150 million of the overall cost.

SuggestionBoy92d ago

Well.. at least we are getting another Matrix movie with Keanu: )

Retroman92d ago

Yeah, but without Morpheus (Laurence Fishburn) Neo can't hold the complete movie alone without Morpheus.

KingPin91d ago (Edited 91d ago )

actually, morpheus isn't needed as much now all things considered.
Neo believes he is the one. Morpheus character arc of finding, training and making him believe he is the one to make peace between man and machine is complete.

would be nice to have him in the movie though but its not a make or break thing.

Edit: i would rather be hoping that Hugo Weaving makes a return.

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