"not every super hero movies need to cater to children and has bright colors and shoe-in comedy or gag every here and then like what Marvel is doing"

Deadpool was R rated (the only R rated comic superhero movie besides Kickass and Watchmen) and had a great combination of mature action / story and comedy. It got positive reviews and has done insanely well (like a $58 mill budget and made over $700 mill). Hell, one of my favorite movies is the Dark Knight with Ledger's joker owning the entire movie, and he won an award posthumously for his role.

As for BvS, killing off Jimmy Olsen just for sh!ts and giggles (not even naming him and saying he's a CIA spoof?), throwing in the Batman backstory that people have heard a million times already to increase the length of the movie, having a boring senate scene, and completely ruining Doomsday's backstory don't help the movie at all. Hell, even killing off Luther's right hand woman in Mercy Graves, who even at one point takes over for Lex as CEO of the company, doesn't seem to fit right.

Also, there was an article about the RT score and how other movies with mixed reviews have had them labeled as rotten ratings, so claiming BvS is getting unfair treatment isn't correct.

And somehow everybody seems to always forget how well received the Nolan movies were. That is with the dark tone, slow pacing and everything. Fanboys should just accept BvS was even worse then MoS.

#FireSnyder

Didn't answer the question did you...

They are snobs when they don't rate a movie you like high but they are taken by their word when a movie you like does well.

If Wonder Woman does really well score wise you'll all eat it up, no one will say "Can't trust reviewers".

Sonic fans aren't the problem. Die hard DC fans are.

@Foxtrot,

Well, diehard fans of anything. Games, movies, music...

People don't seem to understand that you can be critical of something but still enjoy it, and enjoy something while acknowledging its flaws.

You can also be a die hard and critical at the same time. Like sports fans sometimes. Die hards can be the most critical and cynical reviewers.

Rises was alright just a little bit of a letdown but it still was alright.

Age of Ultron again not as good as the first film but it still was decent.

The problem is these two films had a better story, character development, respect to the source material, well shot, well edited, story structure was good. Point is this whole "symbolism" thing is just a lousy, crappy excuse from people to defend the film

" because they don't understand"

Sorry but it's not a psychological thriller, it's a comic book film which was poorly done after the huge amount of hype behind it. That's it.

"and are use to not having to use their brain when watching Marvel's "superhero" films"

Lol...oh come on man that's just low and you know it. Like DC is any better when it's again about explosions, fights and CGI like all Superhero films.

"Foreshadowing"

You mean like Thanos/Infinity Stones in Marvel which has pretty much been teased since the early days. Marvel has an end goal with Infinity War, the film which will take all that build up over the years and finally get it to come to a conclusion. Like how the films in Phase 1 all built up to the Avengers. What do we have in BvS...oh yeah quick references and cameos of DC related things so they can rush the Justice League as fast as they can with no build up.

What about Civil War aswell? They've used the actions of the last films as a story plot point for this film. BvS is like Marvel doing Civil War as their second or third film.

Slow and steady wins the race

See, that's where I disagree. This movie actually had a lot in common with MCU films in the way it clumsily handled a lot of those extraneous plot points.

As a general rule of thumb I find forcefeeding the audience expanded universe bits to be a bit of a shady practice. Rarely is it in service of the story at hand, and the worst examples actually detract from the movie (Iron Man 2).

The Knightmare sequences added very little to the movie, and to be honest they just made Batman's paranoia of Superman feel manufactured when that could have been time better spent exploring honest reasons as to why Batman would be so opposed to this god like being. Which is what the story is really supposed to be about, as visually cool as those segments might have been. I nerded out like everybody else over all of the Darksied easter eggs, but ultimately that was of very little consequence to the film.

Wonder Woman's presence in the film also felt forced. Her whole plot involves the tracking down an old photo for what I can only guess was an attempt to keep her identity a secret. She's given very little to do in the film that is worthwhile other than to reassure the audience that there will be a new Wonder Woman coming out. Once again, had her scenes been cut the movie would have gone largely unchanged.

That is not to say that DC is the only offender. They do attempt to give the story some weight by not having it completely revolve around a macguffin unlike the Avengers, which felt inconsequential by comparison. Easter eggs can add an interesting layer to a movie but at the same time it has to work on its own. You have to be able to compartmentalize that part of the movie in order to judge it objectively. A movie should never rest on the strength of an easter egg, it should always treat the audience as if they have no prior knowledge.

I haven't liked a marvel movie since iron man. I also am well aware of the DC extended universe. I still don't like Batman v Superman. It's a terribly written movie with a lot of tone and style to it. People don't dislike it because they don't get it, people don't dislike it because they don't know comic books, people dislike it because it's terribly written.

Batman v Superman's issue wasn't the number of characters, I really haven't seen that complaint anywhere. And it's funny you bring up quicksilver's death as they just killed off Superman, one of the two most important characters in the entire DC universe, just two movies in.

Also, the point of the ending of inception is that he no longer cares if he's in a dream or not. He spins the top and it's left up to the viewer's discretion whether he's dreaming or not, but he walks away. He's happy and at peace.

' I didn't like it because I didn't understand it.
I wanted it to be more like a Marvel superhero film, and didn't like the fact that it used a bunch of themes from other continuities I didn't know of, I didn't understand the foreshadowing, symbolism, as I'm not familiar with the extended DC universe, and it's crap because it wasn't the dumbed down film I wanted it to be.

Your reply in a nutshell.'

C'mon dude, I love my DC comics but BvS wasn't an intelligently constructed film. No one is struggling with the story and themes here, it doesn't take a genius to understand that. The problem is that everything was poorly executed and it couldn't be more apparent that this was just a massive rush job to get the justic league film out as soon as possible.

Spot on

not that great

Not that bad either.