i don't find it hard to defend the movie. i really liked it. as i said in a previous post there were a few things i wasn't overly fond of but at the end of the day i had fun watching it. i'll see it again and i'll buy the directors cut later this year when it releases.

i feel like there was absolutely nothing anyone could have done to appease the people who were ripping on it from the beginning. you are very much included in that list of people who were hoping for it to fail but you were wrong.

I didn't want it to fail, I KNEW it would fail. When that Batman/Superman logo was shown years ago I was pumped and beyond excited for it as a DC fan but as the months went on and casting was revealed it just got worse and worse until that hype for me was dead. Most of the things critics said I said months before it came out, so you can't say "Oh you are just saying what they have said" when I said it before them. It was too obvious anyway, the whole thing was being rushed and in the film it shows.

Instead of people wanting better, they'd rather defend the crap they have.

Transformers and the like, even games like Call of Duty get huge numbers but it doesn't mean they are fantastic or ground breaking. So yeah it still failed, it's just die hard fanboys don't want to admit it which is a shame because in order to improve something you need to first find and admit what was wrong in the first place.

Dude the movie was decent. Yes it had problems but it also had great moments and potential. It was not bad but it also was not great, it was average.

Good:
+Strong performances by everyone
+Best batman on screen. Some direction issues aside like batman killing during the nightmare sequence
+Great action sequences
+Great visual and sound direction
+Sets up the future movies the best it could. Flash and Aquaman cameos in the surveillance footage were great
+Wonder Woman was great and seemed like a badass we needed

Bad:
-Pacing Issues should had balanced action sequences with scenes where audience get to breed and heroes maybe have a lighter moment
-Editing issues specifically in the first act of the movie where scenes scenes dont flow together and just cut from one to another which causes issues with character and tone development to an extent
-Plot holes which could be blamed to Zack being forced to cut down half an hour of footage which is honestly quite a bit, granted he should made an 2 hr movie
-Superman is not developed enough as a character and the way it is written he comes off pretty wooden compared to Clark Kent who shows more charisma

Sorry you couldn't follow the movie, it was a little dense with information. But everything was there and the groundwork for justice league was laid out wonderfully.

Probably right. What's funny not like it means anything but I said Snyder is not the guy to build you universe around. Right on this site no less and low and behold I was down voted into oblivion. I do not like his directing style at all.

Bear in mind my original comment is not in support of him.Others are using the box office total like its a badge of honor. Since that doesent work for Transformers it doesent work here either. Im just curious to see what studio execs will do next.

They should have gone with George Miller's justice league, or gotten Peter Jackson. It's be far better than Zack Snyder. Sure Batman v Superman did well, but the bad critical reception and the lack of the major superheroes is really going to wreck movies like aquaman, even if it is good.

People said the same thing after man of steel. Get over it. Comic book fans and the general movie audience likes the movie. He's not going anywhere.

Man of Steel and Batman v Superman both have positive general audience scores on Imdb, Cinemablend, and Rotten Tomatoes. Averaging in the 7.5 range. Doesn't matter how hard you try to project your opinion, people liked them and that's that.

Personally I think Snyder should be replaced. I loved Watchmen and Man of Steel. I'd give both a A+. But Batman V Superman genuinely felt like style over substance. He should be kept to take care of all the special effects and fancy camera angles while getting someone else to sit in the head honcho chair and steer the universe into greatness.

I disagree, Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes have a user score of mid 70, so there is no split, most of the general public liked the movie.

User scores usually drop. As time goes on the people that are less enthusiastic about it, and usually rate it lower, watch it and rate it. A day after release it was a 9, two days, an 8.2, three days, a 7.6, and now it's at 7.4. It'll probably sit around a 7 after the DVD release, but I wouldn't be particularly surprised if it dropped below

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once again foxtrot ignore the elephant in the room and his constant criticisms about everything. this has nothing to do with any disagreement in the past so stop deflecting. i am also not alone in pointing out your harsh negativity.

it's almost like seeing a manic depressive who can't stop posting online in hopes he finds others who have the same mindset which is the only thing that can make you semi-happy.

back on topic, reviews don't really matter much if the money still pours in. so i don't expect snyder to be jobless any time soon.

foxtrot didn't like mad max either, critics loved it. moral of the story, he likes to talk about what he doesn't like and very rarely ever talks about things he does like. i asked him to list 5 games he enjoyed on n4g between now and the beginning of 2015. he never responded.

what does that say about his character?

you also have to remember people just want to be entertained at the movies and not all movies are made for older people . things like twilight i hated but i am not a teenage girl. we see time and again old ideas come back as new aimed at younger generations and some of the older generation can't stand it.

i bet foxtrot can list more things he didn't like about the new star wars than what he did like. that;s just how he is. sad but true.

Saltybread I never responded because I really can't be arsed with you. I could give you a list, I discuss these things with a lot of nice people on N4G but you're not one of them. You are the kind of person who cares more about a user and their opinions/comments then talking about the article.

The majority of your comments or replies to people are basically bitching about what someone has said. Like your doing now, coming across as a school girl bitching about someone ("Foxtrot this, Foxtrot that whisper whisper).

I know why you do it on here though because you find more of an opportunity to "get back" at me over the times you've said something on N4G and I or others have shut you down. Comes on a little sad in my opinion but I get it.

As for Mad Max I liked it as a film but I hated it as a Mad Max film. Like I've said it felt more like a spin off that shoe horned Max into it. Never once slammed the quality

So please, like you do with people on N4G (how you got your nickname Saltybread by the way) don't talk shit and twist things. Thanks.

I'm not sure if it's a question on whether someone could do it better themselves. I can't play like a professional football player but if it's clear as day that a particular player isn't doing too well then it's fair to say that he's playing crap.

So when you're watching a film, you don't usually have to be a professional writer to understand good writing. You'll know good writing when you're engrossed, on the edge of your seat, wondering what will happen next. When a film doesn't do that you know there's something wrong with it and sometimes depending on the film, the mistakes can be as clear as day.

I'd say for me and for many others that this film didn't click the right buttons as it was hard to ignore some of the issues. It's great if you enjoyed it, a lot of people were just expecting a lot more.

Michael Bay has better directing chops then Snyder. At least Bay entertains with his mindlessness.