I just hope it doesn't go the way of just using A list celebrities and their contracts vacuuming the bulk of a games development budget. There are a lot of people looking for work and I could give two craps about a movie star being in my game.

I don't think there's a way to truly "cross" the uncanny valley. That would mean that our brain accepts what it's seeing as "real". I don't think that level of immersion is possible.

uncanny vally is not something that can be overcome with tech.

Why next gen consoles and not current gen PC? Surely they are able to right master race?

According to most reputable sources, crossing that point would take roughly 25TF of rendering power. Next gen consoles will not hit 25TF.

Zen 2 cores....7nm 32 GB hurry up 2020.

In the meantime, the rest of the game will look crap. Same old next gen overhype.

Seems unlikely, but I would be quite happy to be proven wrong.

They still have a long way to go, more hype than anything. Even this single still photo they can't even get right, there's no life in it, totally blank stare.

I care more about how much imagination and style they can put into a game than skin pores.

The fox and snowdrop engine are sweet.

I swear they say this every generation.

Its about time we hear from a reputable dev on the matter. For those not in the know:

https://youtu.be/mkkWCmljMS...

https://youtu.be/9owTAISsvw...

While these look incredible... we still have a huge elephant in the room, and that is soft body physics. While making a character look real is a great step in the right direction, making them react realistically is something entirely different. Soft body physics would allow realtime cuts to form, flesh to act and react to penetration and touch. The muscles, fat, bone and tendons would all have to be accounted for, to get it right. Between the realistic looks and soft body physics, imagine playing a game where when you cut someone or shot someone, they would have slices, parts or holes with blood pouring from those areas of intrusion. Imagine the emotion that this could employ in players, as if it were happening to someone in real life. Would you then be so willing to kill a character in a game?

Great stuff on the horizon. I just hope that next generation consoles and games take the same leaps in physics, simulation and AI that they do in visuals.

I gotta admit the lady in the thumbnail freaks me out if I look at her for more than 10 seconds. Something is so creepy about the image.

Yes certain developers will

Right.

This’ll totally depend on the games in question. Something dark like the Siren games where you potentially only see the faces in fleeting fashion? Yeah, we will get photorealism in games like that soon enough, with good devs.

Anything that lingers on faces is going to be an issue, they can’t even get prerendered faces in films perfect most of the time, there’s no reason to think game devs would be better at it than effects houses.

That won't happen. The more realistic graphics get, the more it get to uncanny valley until it looks really realistic. That won't happen in the near future.
Btw, you can bypass uncanny valley if you just use a more comiclike look.

Facial animation is one of the main factors of the uncanny valley.
Console generations make no difference to it, it's more about the talents and the facial capture technologies. Not the amount of power available to the devs.

At 30fps.

If they had the budget and the right team, yes.

Ultra Microtransactions! ...

@big_dom_strikes_back I get what your saying and yes is what I mean give it 5 to 10 years and we will have uncanny valley on PS5 or PS6

I'm not a PC gamer, but isn't it likely that the next gen of consoles - if they launch 2020 will be about as good as what a high-end PC can do now? And if so - can current high-end PCs cross the uncanny valley? (I thought not).

Uncanny valley sounds great but can you guys make sure we get solid 30fps gameplay as the bear minimum next gen please. I just don't see any reason why games should be regularly dipping to sub 30fps on next gen systems.

Basically the gap between wow that looks real and wow no way that's a game