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Xbox One X Has Won An Important Victory Over PS4 Pro In My Household

Forbes: "There are many, many debates to be had about whether or not an Xbox One is a good purchase for you, given your current console set-up, TV and general level of interest. But what I can speak to is my own experience with the system so far, as someone who does this for a living and is almost has to own every system (with a solid TV to play them on)."

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maybelovehate2350d ago

Well yeah, I mean the games are better on X.

TheKingKratos2349d ago (Edited 2349d ago )

*Slightly better*
and you need 400-600% zoom in to notice something

LastCenturyRob2349d ago

majority play better as well

Professor_K2349d ago

Better is better

" Slightly" is irelative

nix2349d ago

Don't forget, 4 nominated GOTY games out of 5 on Games Award can't be played on Xbox X. Even the 5th one can't be played (right now) which is Playerunknown. So i don't know what he's playing and winning.

andrewsquall2349d ago

@LastCenturyRob No, "majority" play better on X over standard Xbone which has struggled to hit the target FPS of 30 or 60 on most new releases this year.

neoandrew2349d ago (Edited 2349d ago )

"and you need 400-600% zoom in to notice something "

Lol, nope, you can see it even on this small tomb raider comparison image on Forbes article, the difference is huge, but im not the one to decide if this is a factor for everyone.

Ulf2349d ago (Edited 2349d ago )

Actually, with a higher framerate, they will also play better. Shorter frames means less input-to-screen latency, by nature.

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littletad2349d ago

Look and play better* due to higher framerate (sometimes at least).

TKCMuzzer2349d ago

You contradict yourself, do they or do they not? A well optimized 60FPS will play the same on all consoles, therefore the game is no better. Instead of giving devs power to override issues, maybe devs should actually aim to hit the proper FPS on all machines, even if that means they leave certain graphical features out.

littletad2349d ago

No I don't. Given the spec difference, the X should hit a higher framerate everytime or match the pro's. I said sometimes because it depends on whether the developers use the extra power to accommodate for higher framerates.

Xx_Pistol_xX2349d ago

Multiplatform games. When it comes to exclusives not even close. State of Decay vs Days Gone show the difference in developer talent. The people who will really utalize the platform.

Tobse2349d ago

One is sp, one is mp. Try to compare the same games at least. Of course its easy to make sp only games look good

Why o why2349d ago (Edited 2349d ago )

Nail head. . .

that's kinda hard. . I mean. . There's a gt equivalent and a kill zone equivalent. . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . Can you see the problem we're having here

ONESHOTV22349d ago

What ???? Have you played state of decay to judge it ?? Because i can also say days gone is nothing but another uncharted clone with zombie's now tell me we're is the innovation in that? dude go and buy a cheap copy of state of decay on PC since everyone here has one right??? Ah don't forget the mods.

Professor_K2349d ago

And state of decay is a much better game. Open world lots of content and things to do and HIGH replayability compared to another linear cinematic borefest. Nothing you say about it could change how brilliantly designed the game is.

DJustinUNCHAIND2349d ago

State of Decay came out over 4 years ago.

What's your point?

Days Gone looks boring.

Atticus_finch2349d ago

State of decay might be good but it doesn't even have proper animation and it looks last gen. No competition against Sony 1st party

Xx_Pistol_xX2349d ago (Edited 2349d ago )

From those of you that don't get it. Sony has more known and higher praiseed talented developers than Xbox. They haven't really had a GOTY contender since Halo 3 which was Bungie. And the other part is that Sony also treats develolpers great. This is why Playstation has Hellblade, Spiderman, Shenmue, Final Fantasy 7 remake and the First Kojima game.

Xx_Pistol_xX2349d ago (Edited 2349d ago )

@Professor_K State of Decay is better than a game that isn't even out yet??? Common bro. Also if you think that Days Gone is linear you haven't watched any of the dev diaries. Things like weather and day and night cycles can drastically change your experience. Just watch the dev diary where they play the same level from the E3 presentation and the tackle the mission completly differently.

Imalwaysright2349d ago

Xx_Pistol_xX

"State of Decay is better than a game that isn't even out yet??"

If you can judge games that haven't been released why can't someone else do the same?

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Dragonscale2349d ago

They still play exactly the same. A sh1t game with high rez graphics is still a sh1t game.

TechnoGoat2349d ago

And yet it can't hold a candle to Playstation's Library of first party games... funny how that works.

ONESHOTV22348d ago

First party games i have zero interest in all i see is uninspired/bland QTE movie based game Sony first party games are best bought use or rent because they have no replay value and yes i do own a ps4 pro and every PS console that came before it.... Sniperbsr check my PSN if there is any doubt

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ApocalypseShadow2350d ago (Edited 2350d ago )

We've come full circle back to the OG Xbox with the love of flash over substance. With gamers buying X for more detail over games and gameplay. Nothing's changed. OG Xbox had better looking 3rd party titles. Initially, 360 had better looking 3rd party titles because Cell was hard to program for. And now, X will potentially have better looking 3rd party titles because of a more powerful system delivered later.

Just remember article writer, that this is the same company that dropped support for OG Xbox, dropped support for 360 in its last 3 years and took games slated for 360 and put them on Xbox one to front load the console launch with games while not delivering one new IP almost this whole generation while canceling other games. And that this company still chases other things more than delivering games like GaaS.

Don't forget that they tried to take away your gamer rights in the worst way. And, remember that they lied to their base about **3X the One with cloud power** and **NOT NEEDING** new hardware to deliver better graphics. And when they failed to mislead consumers about it, ended up producing hardware instead while delaying the very game they were misleading consumers with that ended up looking like a high resolution PS2 game.
https://m.youtube.com/watch...
Nope. Didn't look or play like that. Didn't look like this either at the last E3.
https://m.youtube.com/watch...

Enjoy those 3rd party games in your household article writer. It's not anything different that we haven't seen before. While a truckload of 1st party games is delivered on those other platforms. Even the hybrid portable one. And as we've seen before, Microsoft and its base's mindset, have abandoned the OG Xbox one like all the previous Xbox systems and talk more about the "beast."

Lennoxb632350d ago

None of this needed to be written. All you had to say is "I don't like MS/Xbox" and all of this would've been obvious. Why do you guys try so hard to get people to turn against a product you have no interest in owning? Let people buy and indulge what they want regardless of your feelings about it. Cause yours don't matter at this point.

Aenea2349d ago

Indeed, the Forbes' author didn't need to write the article either since he clearly favours Xbox due to the fact he didn't do the same thing when PS4 versions looked better than X1 versions. It's ok, but didn't need an article!

LastCenturyRob2349d ago

@ Lennoxb63...Trolls are trolls. They get offended instantly if someone dares not like and purchase exactly what they have.

LoveSpuds2349d ago

It's a public forum and there are legit reasons to dislike MS's treatment of the consumer. Not everything is about pathetic fanboys.

TKCMuzzer2349d ago

It may be long winded but there are a couple of valid points especially about the cycle pattern. The 'X' sold well in the first week but the big question is 'how many of those sales were to people upgrading from Xbox One?" I imagine the answer is quite high and all it does is back up the comment above. MS and some of its users are just quick to move on , not support a console and then rinse and repeat. There is no ground work being done by MS to make the Xbox platform feel grounded and worth investing in. If they struggle they just bring out new hardware, instead of making that struggling hardware attractive.
I'm more likely to buy an Xbox One than an 'X' because there are only a couple of games I want to play that I can't get on my PS4. I'm Not paying for a console for 3rd party games as most of them don't push either platform and are not optimized properly, so devs just used power to paper over the cracks.
Sony to be fair could of reacted once the 'X' was announced and delayed the Pro to be more powerful but I think its worth highlighting how confident they are in 1st party software to push their hardware. This is the position a video games console maker should be in, knowing that great hardware and software go hand in hand, its important for us a gamers ,that these remains true.

Atticus_finch2349d ago

I'm sorry Lennox but M$ is very easy to dislikes. Kinda like EA

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bluefox7552349d ago

If you don't like something, the implications is you believe it to be inferior to whatever you do like. If you have good reasons, there's no reason why you can't elaborate on them. This is a forum after all. Just because people like you might be offended that someone doesn't like something that you own, isn't reason enough for someone to not express their opinion.

rainslacker2349d ago

So, no real retort against the reasons why he doesn't like MS/Xbox?

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Death2350d ago

Someone sounds a little jealous.

LoveSpuds2349d ago

Not jealous, just someone who is not buying into MS's bullshit any longer.

Professor_K2349d ago (Edited 2349d ago )

Love spuds

Yet you are buying Sony's bullshit even further. Keep sipping that white coooaid cuz Microsoft isn't he one screwing it's consumers with fake BC content lacking games and broken promises. Enjoy your muddy upgrade.

Jealous is the incorrect term to describe the sonyo fan base right now. Id say full panic mode DEYYY SCARED

trooper_2349d ago

Jealous of what?

Pixie dust and no real exclusives?

Silly gameAr2349d ago

Someone sounds a little brainwashed.

bluefox7552349d ago

Jealous? What does that even mean? He's jealous that he doesn't have an Xbox? If that were the case, why wouldn't he just buy one? Presumably he thinks it's a poor console. Dislike isn't the same thing as jealousy, I'm not sure you understand what that word means.

Snookies122349d ago (Edited 2349d ago )

@Professor_K - What are you even talking about? Are you actually bringing up Sony's broken promises when you're defending Microsoft? How many times has MS promised exclusives and then cancelled them, or swept their promises under the rug? Both companies have straight up lied to us, but MS actually has a track record of doing so in the past. I like Xbox, always have from the original back in the day. I just don't like the company behind the Xbox. For everything one thing they do right, it seems like they're doing two things wrong.

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Aenea2349d ago

I just found it odd that the author didn't have the same thing when it was just PS4/X1, the PS4 versions were clearly better yet he didn't play them all on the PS4 so what's changed now? Sounds to me he's just a bit more of a fan of Xbox which is okay too of course but didn't need an article...

DrumBeat2349d ago

Nothing needs an article, lol.

LastCenturyRob2349d ago

Geeze, bitter much?...X1 has not been abandoned...maybe look up the word before you use it.

LoveSpuds2349d ago

Summed up exactly how I feel squire. I gave MS one last chance three E3's ago and was duped into buying my XB1, I was promised an increase in performance through cloud implementation, Hololense and a raft of incredible exclusives, I trusted them and bought an Xbox.

Not 6 months later they announced all games were going to PC too, a platform I already owned. 3 years down the line they have nothing exciting to tell me about as an existing Xbox owner, no increase in performance from the cloud, nothing further about Hololense, most of the games I was excited for have been cancelled or were dogshit.....I feel duped and now they want me to buy a new console again.

They delivered with Sunset Overdrive and Ori and that is it, and I could have played Ori on my PC.

BigWan782349d ago

@Apocolypse Shadow...

you sound like a very bitter boyfriend/girlfriend... this is actually pathetic.

I can actually picture your throwing stuff and crying as you type this... LOL

Dragonscale2349d ago

Yeah but he's got some good points and your comment did absolutely nothing to refute them. Theres good reasons for people to hate ms after all the bullcrap from them this gen.

Aenea2349d ago

Actually, his post had substance and raised some good points while yours is just making fun of him. Somehow I think what you say is more about yourself...

BigWan782349d ago

Yah gotta let things go... this is videogames... yall sound super bitter and borderline depressive over videogames.

The author hasnt like Xbox for mich of the generation at all.. and now he finds a bright spot (his personal opinion) , and yall lose yall crap.

He found some good in a platform that he hasnt seen year prior...

And Apocalypse Shadow goes into a rant of epic proportions of various Xbox topiics, that are all off course..

Like I said... bitter girlfriend/boyfriend

Atticus_finch2349d ago

bigwan Look up the definition of ad hominem.

Death2349d ago

If you consider bs to be substance, then yes, his rant is full of substance.

bluefox7552349d ago

Self awareness much? You calling him and Aenea bitter is a bit ironic.

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omegaheat2349d ago (Edited 2349d ago )

Apacolypse Shadow, you have some issues, dude. If you don't like something, just say that you don't like it. Don't beat around the bush about it, and can you do it in the PlayStation forums with your other clan members. Who exactly are you trying to recruit into your hate organization? I bet you can't even explain how the Xbox is a threat to you, even though you don't intend to own one. Waiting for your public reply. I know you won't have anything logical to say.

ApocalypseShadow2349d ago (Edited 2349d ago )

Besides the childish comments, as you see, they didn't counter what I said. You don't like what I said in a public forum where everyone is allowed to have a say. Even **YOU** didn't refute what you know is true about Microsoft. You want to call me out, here I am.

Microsoft's only goal in entering the console market is to monopolize the console industry like they did the PC industry. And try and counter Sony's moves by shadowing them with a smiley face.

Microsoft only tries to fleece gamer's wallets while giving back nothing. Only when forced will they give back like PS Plus does. They introduced paying for online. People like me told everyone that if Xbox fans paid, it would effect the other systems. Sure enough, PS4 charges for online play. Microsoft raised the price to $60, Sony raised to $60. Now Nintendo is going to charge. All this I knew way before it was going to happen because of Microsoft ***YEARS AGO***

Microsoft locked simple things behind pay walls like Netflix. Couldn't even use basic features unless you had Xbox live. BS.

Microsoft's introduced MTs because everything didn't fit on 1 DVD disc. Things like horse armor for $0.99 could easily fit on a BDVD that Sony introduced. Every DLC of GTA4 could fit on 1 BDVD. Thanks to Microsoft, things that used to be free on disc are now sold separately because of DVD and developers getting greedy because 360 was the lead platform last gen.

Microsoft pushes for online play and servics to fleece wallets with more MTs than making great single player games. They even imply that single player aren't good to have while trying to downplay BotW and HZD. Both single player games from the competition. Single player are just as important as multiplayer. Which could effect my love for single player games in the future.

They don't create studios, they don't create new IPs, they mislead gamers about what Kinect could do, they mislead gamers running Xbox one games on PCs before Xbox one launch. They mislead gamers about Hololens which was just there at E3 to try to overshadow VR. Then released nothing.

They talked about cloud power and showed crackdown demos an released nothing. When gamers weren't fooled by the cloud, they then built Xbox one X that could be considered next gen but hide it under the "Xbox family" nonsense. Then play like they never talked about 3X the power.

They didn't tell gamers about canceling scalebound until after the holiday season because it would have hurt their holiday sales of Xbox one.

See, Microsoft's lies, misleads, manipulates. Which could effect my way of playing games going forward if other companies follow their stupid ideas. And if they were allowed to release those ridiculous launch policies, that could have effected my way of borrowing, lending games and trading in games. Not being able to play a single player game unless connected to the internet. And check in every 24 hours like gamers are criminals.

Nintendo doesn't do this. Sony doesn't do this. But Microsoft makes it their mission like EA to look for avenues to screw over gamers. If you don't like the truth, skip over it and continue to be ignorant about Microsoft. Just because they smile don't mean they have your best interest.

Enjoy spending $500 to play the exact same games everyone else can play right now. When they can't beat Sony, they just keep introducing new hardware while neglecting that SOFTWARE drives HARDWARE. It's not that hard to figure that out. And with all their money, Microsoft doesn't care to do that which could lead other companies to have that same way of thinking.

BigWan782348d ago

@Apocolype Shadow...

Once again tou have deciced to kump away from the subject and go on a wild temper tantrum.

The writer of this article found a bright spot in Xbox m, in which has he seen years prior.

He gave his reasons as such, and as much as i dont like any of the Forbes video game writers... his points are valid..

He told a truth in that; the Xbox One X will make every multi plat game run & look miles better from here on out. And Im not even speaking about the enhanced versions of games.

Unless its a big time multiplayer game that he plays with friends, and has time invested (example:Destiny or Ghost Recon) why should he buy another multiplat on PlayStation over Xbox One X?

You see how easy it is to stay within the subject at hand?

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RommyReigns2349d ago (Edited 2349d ago )

Forbes...... always been a typical Microsoft shill site.

shiva12349d ago

Oooh really. Just go browse their history. I still remember about an editor in forbes "Jim Ryan" that I gave back a really bad comment when he posted repeatedly on Halo MCC. I was drunk and it was my mistake.

But really read their history.

LastCenturyRob2349d ago

Really? With all the pro Sony articles written constantly you spew this nonsense because an article favors MS? Get off your high horse for a little while.

BigWan782349d ago

@RommyReigns
not even close to being a Microsoft shill site... you just wrote that because they found something in Microsoft, when they have been dogging them for the most part..

Why o why2349d ago

To be honest Forbes has flirted with both ms and Sony this gen. Each writer may have a preference and that's fine but collectively I feel the balance has been fair.

The_Sage2349d ago

Finally... A post of yours I can reply to. There are two Rs in irrelative. I feel irrelevant would have been a better fit anyway. Whew. It's been grinding at me. Glad to have it off my chest.

WeAreLegion2349d ago

I don't know about a Microsoft site, but they sure hate Sony. They trash the company every chance they get.

Condemnedman2349d ago (Edited 2349d ago )

its full of Sony lovers get your facts correct. love it when people make shit uo

BlackTar1872349d ago

That's not true. Prove it

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merciless2349d ago

In my household? Is that what it's come down to?

Call me when XBOX One X makes an important victory worldwide or beyond the first 3 months of launch NPD. This thing is a marathon that spans 5 years. Not launch week or launch month. And in that respect XBOX has about 4 years and 8 months to catch up on.

Cryptcuzz2349d ago

Maybe he meant 4 years and 8 months of playing the best versions of games? He isn't wrong right? Prior to MS releasing the X, the PS4 has always been the one with the best version of games. Not to mention the countless exclusives that has been released in that time frame and will be available for the PS4 in the coming year.

I have no idea man, I'm not a mind-reader lol.
Maybe he just meant the lasting appeal of the X and whether it will continue to sale long-term or just initially for a couple of months from die-hard xbox fans.

LastCenturyRob2349d ago

Victory? Is Xbox about to invade a country or start a war? I don't need to be "called" to enjoy what the X is offering. It can sell 1 million the rest of the year or 1 thousand... Could care less either way...I purchase what I like and that's that. Don't need a numbers game to tell me if I am enjoying my purchase or not.

Professor_K2349d ago

Its called a console war an they have been around since the Nintendo/Sega ages.

Xbox seems to be taking the lead despite everything been said in this insecure P's biased site.

badz1492349d ago

@LastCenturyRob

"It can sell 1 million the rest of the year or 1 thousand... Could care less either way..."

it's "couldn't care less" and THAT is not how console sales work. your personal enjoyment doesn't warrant a console's success. this has been proven many time throughout history and recently with the Dreamcast and recently the Wii U and Vita (it's still alive but the support outside of JRPG is atrocious). All are great in their own way but due to poor sales, they are abandoned! you can't talk about how you enjoy gaming on them if nobody is making games on them no more!

so MS care if the X sells or not because the more they are lagging behind the PS4, the harder they are gonna get special treatment for publishers and devs and it will hamper their plan of making the Xbox ecosystem as the center of your living room entertainment.

LoveSpuds2349d ago (Edited 2349d ago )

Agreed. The games on SWITCH clearly demonstrate where the importance of graphical fidelity lies compared to other factors such as great exclusives or fantastic gameplay.

The fact that Sonys console enjoys a constant stream of exclusives that look incredible on top of the 3rd party stuff that, while not looking as good as Xbox1X, still look fantastic, puts Sony in such a strong position.

Over the next year games websites will be reviewing exciting new titles on Nintendo and PlayStation and generating excitement and a buzz for those platforms, nothing is as exciting as a cool new game. All MS can do is say 'look at these games that are now backwards compatible' and 'look at these slight graphical improvement'. It's just not good enough.

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LoveSpuds2349d ago (Edited 2349d ago )

@Messiah

Agreed, they can boast that the 3rd party titles look a little better on their premium console, nobody with any sense can argue against that point.

You are grossly underestimating the amount of exclusives though, there might only be 4 or 5 'mainstream' exclusives a year, but in totality, there are now 4 or 5 a month once you factor in the more niche titles from Japan and the Indies on top of that, it matters, no matter how you dress it up, exclusives are important.

The 3rd party stuff will look better on the 1X, but they also look incredible on the Pro and importantly, the 1X and Pro matter to a fairly small percentage of the market anyway. As a result, for the majority of the market, the differences between the PRO and X1 will not matter at all.

From next month, the games media will be pumping out stories and content on one exclusive after another that are coming to PlayStation and Switch, what exciting news will I enjoy for the XB1 they sold me 3 years ago?

BigWan782349d ago

@merciless..

what do they have to catch up to? npd numbers? while you probably cherish npd's and sales of hardware, at the end of the day they don't even matter.

Dragonscale2349d ago

They matter to ms and the fanatx. Thats for damn sure.

trooper_2349d ago

They need to catch up in games, not canceling them.

Professor_K2349d ago

Its aredy beaten the pro bro.lol

LoveSpuds2349d ago

@professorK

You add nothing to any discussion other than pathetic comments to suggest than anyone who doesn't agree with your bias is somehow jealous. You sound utterly ridiculous, how about you attempt to proffer a reasoned counter argument to points raised above about all of the promises Microsoft have made to me that have never materialised?

badz1492349d ago

@Professor_K

if beating the lower selling SKU is THAT important to MS, then, sure, why not, right?

LOL such a low target. no wonder Xbox is so irrelevant worldwide! >60% of total xbone sales is from US+UK. that's how much others don't care about the xbox brand LOL

trooper_2349d ago

You can't even refute the arguments against Microsoft, can you? Keep up the cheerleading - Microsoft will continue putting whool over your eyes.

bluefox7552349d ago

But it hasn't, maybe in certain markets, but it will never come close globally.

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badz1492349d ago

NPD and maybe in the UK for 2 or 3 months but after that, I can't see the X keeping itself at the top. even then, November is a Black Friday month, right? how could a $500 compete with a $200 market leader? I think November is still too hard to call for MS victory

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