ThisGenGaming says "Microsoft have big plans for the end of the year after Sony's strong start to 2017. Sony however has enough ammo ready for the end of the year to upstage Microsoft's exclusives and the Scorpio launch."
Don't count Microsoft out yet.
i dont think Cuphead on the moment download and VR for Xbox will give them the upper hand (who the F cares about these 2 things)....they need new IPs and New exclusive Japanese IPs ASAP is they want to match at least whatever Sony has to show (however i dont know at what point is this possible) ...
At this point Microsoft needs to match Nintendo first party exclusives imo.
naruga,
I agree Cuphead and VR aren't gonna give them the "upperhand", but neither are Japanese games really. Yeah sure some will like that but history has shown they don't move the needle much for Xbox. New IPs is what they need, yep the big blockbuster AAA western kind. That's why people buy the box....and there's PLENTY of different variety to be found within the western genre's that sell well on Xbox and hasnt been explored. I mean truth is if you like jrpgs and niche Japanese games honestly you're gonna get a ps, if more appear on Xbox, ps will still do that more, so a few on Xbox ain't gonna change nobody mind about where to play Japanese games and IF Microsoft went all out on Japanese games to appease the few theyd likely lose focus on the majority who dont care about jrpgs, niche Japanese games, etc...and frankly that wouldn't be a Xbox, that would be a box trying to be a ps.
No, I'm not against adding diversity with a Japanese game here and there but strategically speaking Japanese games just aren't gonna help Xbox much. There's still 10's of millions of potential untapped gamers out there who havent brought a X1 because Microsoft just hasn't delivered enough core gaming experiences for them and that's who Microsoft needs to speak to with the right kinds of games.
if they announce 3rd party exclusives that if not for microsoft could be on other consoles as well then ill seriously be pissed!!
with what game? dont say bloodborne because the first soul game was co developed by fromsoftware and japan studios so yea every one else should be thankful to sony they get to play souls games on their consoles and pc.
Considering alot of indies that pass up on Xbox and Japanese games that dont release on Xbox because they think their core audience is Japan and Sony paying for all big 3rd party advertising then I wouldnt fault MS for paying for 3rd party exclusives. PS4 fanboys say the Xbox needs Exclusives that they cant play on PC but doesnt want them to come from 3rd party devs. What is the difference with paying for 3rd party exclusives vs paying the salary of 1st party devs for exclusives?
with third party in normal cases the game eg Deadrising3 would have ended up on all consoles anyways. so its MS paying money to 3rd party to NOT release their game on sony console VS paying salary to 1st party studios to develop original games for xbox. look at sony's library of games and how Most of their exclusives have changed the landscape and production level of games u see now.. if not for sony and ps3 exclusives this gen would have been mostly about always online multiplayer games like the division and over watch!
give them the upper hand? feck, they are delusional. it is not gonna cost 399$,because Spencer said him self that it is a premium machine.new IP exclusive? but Spencer said that they not going to have any exclusives,and they do not have them. cuphead? really? :D Fallout VR? seriously?
Phil has also said Scorpio will have the same kind of price consoles have had in recent times, considering from a physical standpoint Scorpio is just a PS4 Pro, with 4 more Compute Units on it's GPU, 50% more GDDR5, a 4K Blu Ray drive and a slightly better cooling solution $399 is very likely the price to make MS a marginal profit, Sony can probably drop the Pro's price to $299 and make a few dollars.
It's premium from the perspective that hardcore fans and tech savvy customers know how it's better than other dedicated gaming devices, not price related.
By exclusives it just means they're games available only on Xbox One or Windows.
Sony will continue to beat them in basically every area, save for hardware after 4 years of having the upperhand, but it's still possible for Sony to make a few tweaks to the Pro to keep that edge, if they feel it's necessary.
Recent times can be as much as $500. That's what they released the X1 at. They had a 360 at that price. Sony had a 500-600 console. So on and so forth. $399 is a possibility if they want to take a loss, but it's just hoping that it comes in at that price.
Would be OK if it does come in at that price. Anything that makes it more competative means more chance to succeed.
XB1's launch price was a major factor they were slammed for, plus it included an unnecessary addition, Scorpio is simply a console and given the succes even Pro's achieved at $399 it would be a missed step to go higher.
PS3 isn't a recent console, it's clearly not in the running as a comparison.
I keep seeing people repeat this point, but it actually isn't accurate, given the costs of the materials that make up Scorpio, we're only talking about 50% more GDDR5, 4 more CUs, a 4K bluray drive and some added cooling, most of the performance upgrades over pro are attributed to the clockspeed difference.
$399 would be a marginal profit point, Pro could likely get well below $349 and still make Sony money now, by the end of the year it'll be ramped up in production, fabs for 16nm will be even more mature and those APU yields will be far better than they are now.
GDDR5 chips will also be more cost effective with PS4, Pro and Scorpio using them.
Worst case scenario $449, if MS wants to gouge early adopters or yields for their APU are low, which is highly unlikely when Scorpio starts mass production. Most importantly $399 is seen as the market wide acceptable and attractive price point.
There could be a 2TB model for $499, but the base will go for the sweet spot IMHO.
New IP
.. that actually release and actually get supported long-term if successful.
Upper hand? No. But give us Battletoads! That will make me very happy as a multiplatform gamer.
MS marketing machine in high gear trying to generate hype. Upper hand? Upper hand in what?
Twinfinite is up there in the echelon of great sites like games radar and Yahoo games?
Low price for Scorpio is the only thing that would help outside of a new Halo announcement.
New exclusive IPs can't be trusted because people will just be waiting for the cancelation.
Cuphead being available for download won't give them an upperhand because it's too small of a title.
And VR is a dead fad.
"Don't count Microsoft out yet."
Sorry but yes, you can count them out. Sony already won, there is no getting the upper hand. Pretty sure Microsoft will never win any generation again because the only way they can win is if Sony launch a year later and/or at a more expensive prize and Sony are never gonna do that again.
Sorry, but the Scorpio is not gonna be $399.99, they keep saying it's a premium product. Sony got the lesson when they launched the PS3 a year later and $100 more, but apparently, Microsoft doesn't get it. There is a reason why Sony went cheaper with the Pro for $399.99, anything above that just doesn't work.
I don't even know why I should even bother with Scorpio anyway, the PS5 will likely launch at the end of 2019 or 2020 and have twice the tflops the Scorpio has, making it a joke. Microsoft will then rush their new xbox to catch up or wait to be ready, but in both cases, they lose.
Yes you heard me, next gen consoles will have 10-12 tflops at least. Current high end videocards are already there, in 2-3 years, it's gonna be ancient technology, ancient enough for a 12 tflops console at 399.99.
Yeah, in 2-3 years we'll have PS5. This leave MS in a really awkward position. Because Scorpio will be only 2 years old, but they'll need to update Xbox again to keep up with Sony. So their half-gen console is going to seem really worthless with only two years of gametime.
go look at a trailer and find out....i don't know to much about it other than it's an id@xbox game and is visually stunning to look at.
Hand drawn art, old cartoon style aesthetics, classic 2d side scroller, challenging gameplay.
Ok so the article says:
1)Low price for Scorpio of $399: Which is actually the logical launch figure and tbh PS4 Pro may retail for that now, but it could easily be dropped to $349 or $299.
2)New Exclusive IPs: Considering Sony already has Bloodborne, The Order, Until Dawn, Knack, Horizon and Ni-Oh out, with Days Gone, Dreams, Detroit, Death Stranding, Deep Down revealed, still to be released and Sucker Punch, Naughty Dog, Sony Japan, Sony London, North West Studio all making New IP for PS4, Microsoft would have to announce at least 7 just to match Sony's latest games out this year or coming in the next 9 to 12 months, it's a very tall order.
3)Cuphead available for download: Sony can reveal WiLD is ready for the same, Matterfall could be too, Sony San Diego and Santa Monica can have a slew of cool looking indies available or slightly bigger AA titles.
4)VR for Xbox: This is just rehashing what Sony have already done and I'm pretty sure Phil and co have said VR won't be something they talk about this year.
For Microsoft to get the upper hand they'd need to do more than Sony has in all of those areas, VR for Xbox, to run on XB1 would either need to be a Scorpio exclusive or some additional processing box would be needed to run on the launch console or XB1-S, unless MS wants a lower resolution standard compared to PS4.
Cost would be an issue if they have to add more processing for base XB1 and the S.
Vice President Mike Ybarra of Xbox recently tweeted a pic of Xbox One Scorpio’s processor. The Tweet in question shows the Xbox One Scorpio’s processor which is surprisingly tiny and can be lifted by two fingers. here is the picture of the processor in question.
That´s beautiful! And has a "4K" printed on it! My guess is: for despite what some people here might say, Scorpio will manage to run most games at native 4K.
Only 10 days to go! Can´t wait!
Not sure why you're getting disagrees. MS stated that their design goals for Scorpio included giving developers the choice of running their XB1 games at native 4K. 1080p and 900p games. Developers can also choose not to run them that way too, instead opting for lower pixel density and better pixel quality instead.
Most games will be native 4K. Seems simple enough to me. Anyone care to explain why they disagree?
It would be nice if he tweeted out some exclusive video games for the xbox
GTR, it would be nice if you answered my question... or stayed on topic... or quit trolling... or just kept quiet if you had nothing relevant to add to the conversation. Thanks.
Well, technically, they were down voted, not disagreed with.
But you can also make the case that if they are disagreeing, they're disagreeing with Obscure_Observer stating that they "can't wait". As a matter of fact, they can wait... because they HAVE to. :0)
@darxyde
Well, technically, when I hit the "down vote" arrow, it tells me I disagreed with your comment.
THE PLOT THICKENS
------"GTR, it would be nice if you answered my question... or stayed on topic... or quit trolling... or just kept quiet if you had nothing relevant to add to the conversation. Thanks."----
I guess a nerve was hit. I'm not "trolling" sir but actually being serious and asking why none of these Microsoft Xbox reps haven't talked about any exclusive games coming to Xbox. As a console owner who bought the system and has purchased the ps4 as well it's quite evident who caters more to a wide variety of gamers. Asking why Microsoft reps haven't released or talked about Xbox exclusive titles coming isn't "trolling". You as a fanat-x would think I'm being facetious when asking for games on a video game platform that is lacking of exclusive games
Well, because if you're even vaguely familiar with 4k gaming on PC, you already know that 6 tflops, while adequate, isn't ideal for native 4k gaming, certainly not if you want 60fps as well. Or maybe they don't think it's beautiful? Or maybe they're not looking forward to it at all, in which the disagree would be in response to "Can't wait!". I know it bothers Xbox fans that many people don't care about Scorpio, but it shouldn't. Just play what you like, and don't worry if other people disagree with your excitement.
TheCommentator,
"pixel density and better pixel quality instead"
-That sounds like PR, a pixel is a pixel, I would just leave it at I think most games will be native 4K.
GtR35olution,
- Why would they show their hand now, that's what E3 is for, but you knew that you're just here trolling.
bluefox755
"I know it bothers Xbox fans that many people don't care about Scorpio, but it shouldn't."
-lol that's rich coming form a guy who lives and breathes Scorpio news, yes YOU care, you care alot, lol btw NewMonday is that you?
"instead opting for lower pixel density and better pixel quality instead."
a pixel is a pixel - there is no such thing as "better pixel quality."
"Most games will be native 4K."
are you sure about that?
I didn't agree or disagree agree...
And I don't think it's just sony guys disagreeing. I think its just the over hyping of this whole thing.
Everone knows scorpio will have 4k games...be it native, upscaled, or sparse rendered. But it's been a full on year of only talking about this. Minimal talk of games. Seeing this chip, same chip seem with DF video is old news.
All this talk about 4k, 6tf and the like is very much so played out. It's a win for xbox...but in no way should it be overshadowing actual games. This E3 looks to be a repeat of last year's E3
New xbox hardware, sea of theives, froza, crackdown, cuphead,old games.
I know several xbox guys who don't like that direction. Are sony fans disagreeing....yes but don't think all xbox guys are sitting here hype about old news hardware and old games. Come E3 the power won't matter....if they lack on showing new compelling games more will be disappointed. This drought of games has gone on for far too long. Since the scorpio was announced, games have taken a back seat and specs have taken the forefront with ms. Xbo is 4 years in and thats unacceptable. Show off the scorpio, yes ..but show off games....even if only screenshots...but show them as the fore front. Since the scorpio was announced a year ago....name ONE AAA ip ms announced. Just 1. Since E3 sony announced knack 2, uncharted lost legacy, tlou 2, and shown a screen shot of sucker punches game. Nintendo showed a new mario, xenoblade2, arms, and mario vs rabbids rpg. MS has shown nothing but specs and unclear 4k banter. It's like tvtvtvtvtv all over again but replaced with 4k4k4k4k4k4k4k*
*not nessecarily native
Because there insecure ... I personally don't get it either .... I have had people disagree with the colour of the paint on my wall .... Idiots
Because this site is full of PS fanboys. That's why. If it were a pic of a PS CPU, first comment would be "Amazing" and have 300 upvotes with 2 downvotes.
GtR35 the nerve hitter😂 ok...
All this guy does is ruin threads with the fanboy nonsense. Then when you respond you come away looking like the one. Wth, Lol...
@bluefox755 (one of my favorite trolls on the site)
I'll leave this here for you. From someone who obviously know alot more than you and I!! Enjoy: https://twitter.com/ID_AA_C...
@ pixel quality comments
-Sorry, I meant image quality! 😅
@ Blue Fox
- Why mention 4K 60 when you know it's possible already? It's simple, 30fps on XB1 means 30fps on Scorpio in 4K. 60fps on XB1 means 60fps on Scorpio in 4K. FYI, Scorpio already runs Forza 6 at 4K 60 with Ultra+ settings.
@ King
Right, games will be shown at E3. Now we're talking about what we know, which is that it is 4K capable for any dev who chooses, unlike Pro which can't handle 4K without compromizes to image quality.
"PFFT 6h ago Inappropriate
Cause Xbox i think. You are in N4Sonygamers land."
and right below
"GtR35olution 6h ago (Edited 6h ago)
It would be nice if he tweeted out some exclusive video games for the xbox"
@Bluefox
If you're familiar with the differences in console and PC you know a closed system like consoles with a specific optimization target and a custom architecture is not the same. A PC is using a better CPU. But a console using an APU that's custom built for gaming, with an OS custom built for it with drastically increased bandwidth and shared reading and writing of the memory is a different beast all together. So if PC can do it sometimes without those things, Scorpio should be capable of it in most of it's games.
Maybe it has to do with the fact MS has "stated" lots of things and many of them turned out to be not true, just because MS states something doesn't mean its going to happen.
Patients people, calm down It's. 10 days to go for E3, you don't eat the birthday cake 🎂 before the party and you never it until the day and moment in all it delicious cakinesss, well that's the Scorpio, any games been shown before the event is most likely to be seen at the event so patiently calm down and wait.
P.S. remember all games that are on of x1 runs on Scorpio ♏ so whatever games you have seen lately well be on the system.
Printing "4K" right on the chip leaves little doubt that resolution is their priority, not better frame rate (which is MY priority).
My Samsung 65" KS9000 is ready to go. I can't WAIT to see what Scorpios going to look like on this TV.
A true 4K console gaming experience from the comfort of my couch.
@ kingthrash360
Sounds like you're going from one article to the next trolling my comments.
Good luck with that bro 👍
Oh, and you answered your own question in another comment you made:
"Everone knows scorpio will have 4k games"
@kingthrash
"Whats "true 4k" mean"
It means "more 4K than the PS4 PRO".
You welcome 😊
It means more 4k than the pro? Lol ok.
So when phil says the scorpio is "the only true 4k console" he means more 4k games than the pro?
By that logic then the ps4 is the "true gaming console"..y'know since it has more games.
Or the xbox is "the true game canceling console " because it's cancelled more.
Or xbox one is " the true 720p" console
Or the switch is " the true competition to ps4 this year" since it won more months than xbox this year.....and so on
Got my PC hooked up to the same TV and true native 4K looks great
@Kingthrash360
"Hey maybe you know this...
Whats "true 4k" mean?"
You keep asking this and people explain it to you but then you just keep asking. It's become very obvious you don't want an answer and instead keeping up your own agenda.
Then when anyone does bite you go off on a rant about cancelled games or who their true competitors are. You have no purpose in this thread other than to stir up controversy.
Are you explaining it or are you spewing out nonsense like septic did above?
True 4k means more 4k games than the pro.....lol you guys have no clue how much phil mind rekd you.
Phil- PR genius
Yeah moldy, it was explained multiple times to him just days ago, need one from 343, 3days ago:
It means 2160p
Not 1440p, not 1800p, not checkboarding 2160p
http://n4g.com/news/2062115...
-Yet he still ptetends he wants an answer, when it's clear he's just butthurt because Scorpio is a mote powerful console than ps4pro, lol its OK kid, just breathe and let it go, your ps4 still will work.
@ MegamanXXX
That's solid, I wanted to go the 4K PC route too but I'd have to do some substantial upgrades to my PC , enjoy though! It's definitely a great TV to game on!!
i can't see how anyone is questioning scorpios 4k capabilities after DF tear down
Microsoft has this thing brute forcing all older 1080p & 900p games to native 4k
whatcha thinks going to happen with new ip's built from the ground up with DX12
this i can't wait to see... get the popcorn ready the show is about to commence🙂
4show....
It wasn't explained. ...2160p is a resolution the ps4pro has done....phil said the scorpio is the only console that's true 4k.....so it can't mean that.
Smh
for real? i just plug my pc to my sony bravia 4k tv and i run a lot of stuff in 4k...and by the way i hope you enjoy scorpio...but if no games than i dont know for what...because my pro as well looks beautiful with the great exclusives games i can play as well...
I think MS understand they can't mess this one up the Scorpio will be as powerful as they say because it has to be
ps4 pro also runs some games at native 4k, and has been out for months and is a lot cheaper than the scorpio and has loads of great games
why wait 10 days when what you want is already out
Reminds me of Barry from Resident Evil investigating the blood on the floor... 🤔
An hour later... 🤔
So is this a thing now? Is interesting gonna become a meme around here? Well don't forget me!!
Interesting
Veeeery interesting....BUT STUPID!
The real question everybody is asking though is how does it actually taste.
You have to get to the center of it to find out, but how many licks does that take? I'll go find Mr. Owl...
A fine braised lamb chop cooked in red wine, sauteed in garlic and honey....or just chicken.
Gotta love how people could easily see the difference between 900p and 1080p
AND NOW
Can barely tell the difference between 1800p and 2160p lol
Just like how Xbox fans couldn't tell the difference, and said resolution doesn't matter, but now it's super important? See, it cuts both ways.
@blue
I agree, my point was to highlight the notion of hypocrisy, in the end objectively, graphical differences between 900p and 1080p are noticeable so are the differences seen between 1800p and 2160p
@Bruh Okay but let me be the one to point out you all had 1080p tvs since at least 2010 or even before.
Most people WON'T be able to tell the difference when the majority of us are all gaming on 1080p tvs anyway.
Unless every Scorpio user is getting or already has "the most expensive 4K TV on the market". That's the most believable thing since the thousands of PC elitists that suddenly showed up on comments the day after the GDDR5 PS4 reveal lol saying they don't care because they are a PC gamer first.
mummy they said something that hurt my feelings blah blah blah blah blah
Get over it it swings around to each side it's now the xbox turn to rip the piss out of you guys . and then most probaly back to Sonys camp
Or how graphics do not matter gameplay>graphics.
Or how you could not see a difference but now you can... although nothing has been shown.
Or etc etc etc
All of you saying this has a history of flip flopping.
"Counting pixels" are we? That was a popular Xbox fanboy phrase before we knew of Scorpio, now they don't use it anymore, guess it doesn't fit the narrative anymore ;)
That narrative got started by yoshida and ps fans, xbox fans talking 4k is just a taste of their own medicine (ps4 fans)
Chano: Thats fine, I just find the flip flopping amusing, and it's clearly happening in both camps. Xbox tends to do it more this generation, guess it's b/c the domination of the PS4 that brings it out.
900p looks like garbage not because its a lower number then 1080p but because its blurry
it produces a blurry image
a couple of years down the road:
4K looks like garbage not because its a lower number then 8K but because its blurry
it produces a blurry image
Those saying they could see 900p vs 1080p weren't truthful unless you consistently game on PC. You can just tell the image is softer, but it only becomes truly noticeable if you have it side by side.
Now those few games that were 720p vs 1080p, that was very noticeable, because it's over 2x the resolution increase.
But 1800p vs 2160p is reaching a point where resolution differences are extremely hard to tell about with zooming in to the finest details. Anything over 1440p is the point where resolution gains become less and less until it's some absurd comparison like 1800p vs 8k.
I will say these comment sections are becoming worse and worse, and this site needs a great purging of fanboys from all platforms.
I agree. Both sides need to go into their corners for a timeout. Act like children, get treated like children. Grow the hell up please.
Don't forget... with more power comes the ability to render more detailed assets, high res textures, particle effects, better shadows etc.
This is not just about resolution.
Also, VR games will get a real boost too if they end up coming to Scorpio.
Xbox one 4k
It is not like the game engines are being pushed due to the lil brother that can't.
Actually watch Digital Foundry's unveiling and educate yourself on the amount of customization and work MS put in to remove the bottle neck for the scorpio.
Actual, have a sense of reality.
The games are made for the Xbox one. Base model.
Then things are added to that model.
The goal is to run said games in 4k.
Unless the Scorpio gets its own copies, it is just added features to the Xbox one game.
Ie the engines will not be built to be better for the entire game.
Take forza.. you will be playing forza... but better textures etc. same game, more make up.
And how hard would it be to get Xbone games to run at 4K anyway like Recore or Forza........ oh whoops they already did that one with that ONE single screenshot so far, but somehow added dynamic weather to it that the game never supported before??????
@andrew
that is a first party game that released last year. They can change anything they want.
But how dependable is Microsoft with first party games?
Totally way off the mark with your question.
@slate1
Quote :
Actually watch Digital Foundry's unveiling and educate yourself on the amount of customization and work MS put in to remove the bottle neck for the scorpio.
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Actually, Jaguar CPU is a bottleneck by itself, modified or not.
Why would any text show and talk new games so when its show time people will say we need to see new games lol 'll
Kind of a silly article.
We have already seen the Processor multiple times. On top of that, the processor is in the promo picture.
Slow news week for sure.
"Scorpio’s processor which is surprisingly tiny and can be lifted by two fingers."
okay... but I am pretty sure you can lift any processor with two fingers...
I probably won't be able to to tell the difference but I have glaucoma so that's gonna be my excuse. I'm still getting it anyways.
Let's hope they have new games to run in 4K, not the same old shit. Personally Mario odyssey will piss over everything Microsoft has to offer.
going to e3 again this year as well as MS presser and I couldn't be more excited to see this thing in action. Hoping to get my hands on it to demo. definitely gonna buy one as soon as they are available.
If 1080p is almost the same that 900p.
Do you think that 2160P (4K) is gona be what to 1800P!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For almost a year we have heard about Scorpio so forgive me if all this talk hasn't hyped me because I gave yet to see a exclusive title that will fully take advantage of this
Everyone saying wait till E3 what will be the excuses after E3? It's not like Ms are known to announce many games to begin with
All that power at $599 won't make a difference when a lowered price pro will have vast majority of games
Enough talk now either put up or shut up
It's amazing how you xbox fanboys say can't wait for the beast how about we see what you will actually be playing on Scorpio that isn't available on pc of ps4
If I was running Sony I would release a Spiderman ps4 pro bundle oh day of Scorpio Launch and its over
Next time maybe tweet a picture of some games
Or how about not canceling titles
"For almost a year we have heard about Scorpio so forgive me if all this talk hasn't hyped me because I gave yet to see a exclusive title that will fully take advantage of this "
If you're not even willing to wait till E3 to see what's announced then you were most likely never looking forward to it.
Listening to this guy is like asking a Ford dealer "Should I buy a Chevy?"...I mean you already know what he's gonna say before his lips start moving. Seriously guys like him should just cut 'n paste "Xbox sucks" in every Xbox thread, instead of waisting their time actually pretending they have some revelant to say.
Yeah, this tweet was a non-story but jeesh the haters get very salty at the mere mentioning of Scorpio.
Lennoxb63
did you not read my comment? i said what if E3 comes and it's all about power and no substance?
4Sh0w
i am sorry i am not excited for all the exclusives coming to scorpio oh wait MS have yet to release anything since last fall
but go ahead anyone who actually asks a logical question must be a hater because i didn't include the new xbox defense force slogan BEAST MODE
"did you not read my comment? i said what if E3 comes and it's all about power and no substance?"
The problem is you're taking your "what if" statement and giving it substance. Maybe you haven't been on N4G lately. But Phil had already got the power part of the conference out of the way with digital foundry. All so he could focus on games. But you completely ignored that and said "what if."
It doesn't really matter Phil Spencer says. you already have your mind made up.
ok showtime i don't now what your smoking but whatever it is it's working to perfection
because you are delusional.
1st off 599 will never happen 500 max
2nd the adoption rate of the pro is not good after a full year Headstart over scorpio
3rd dropping the price and adding free games to a half baked upgrade will only have minimum sales support
but this is just my opinion could be wrong will see how the scorpio launch goes and what sony
counters with as far as bundles and price drops are received.
if you really think $499 is the price scorpio will sell well you must be on some sort of drugs. price matters to most $349 pro with one game will outsell $499 scorpio with one game
and i don't think either ms or sony expect these systems to sell like crazy. these are mid gen upgrades for a reason. not everyone will buy one
http://www.usgamer.net/arti...
6.2 million ps4's sold and i imagine atleast 1-2 million were pros and by the time scorpio comes out ps4 pro's will be minimum 5-7 million
It would be interesting if they showed some Exclusives! This is coming from a guy with over 70,000 achievement poonts!
They saved Crackdown and Sea of Thieves for Scorpio so they have something for people to play
They will also be on the xbone. Scorpio won't have any exclusives.
give it up microsoft nobody gives a jack shi*
about your scorpion as you can not support the xbox one now.
all you want to do is put addons on our machine because your getting paid millions to do so
i do wish microsoft would just fuc* off out of the console world
because its just a windows 10 machine and same goes with this garbage
they trying to put down our throats now
christ some one split your cornflakes? how about you just don't buy their products and stay out of Ms related stories?? why should they get out if the console business? so we're left with Sony or Nintendo? gtfoh what a shite prospect that would be.
That means they dont have enough!
Sony has already shown price and date for Uncharted lost legacy! after having the best 1st half of a year any console has ever had.
Meaning they have plenty to show!...Unlike MS
It is sad that this is what MS is trying to hype while Nintendo is showing new games everyday and Sony has a massive market lead. Xbox may as well walk away from the console industry if they think all people care about is raw power... They don't people care about games.
Nothing gets me more excited for gaming then pictures of processors, accept for maybe actual games being shown of course.
Somewhere that bitch with the yellow dress and umbrella is smiling at the amount of salt in this post.
I think I would like to see game cases for the exclusives that are being worked on as opposed to this. I mean come on.
All that fire-power in such a small piece of tech. In all honesty, I cannot help but be astonished by the research and design efforts placed into console making, sure the PC is all-around "better", but condensing all that technology into a streamline design is something that is truly impressive about consoles. Kudos Microsoft! 🔥
Hang tight on your praise until we can see it in action. Thermal properties? I am sure this thing is going to run HOT. MS and heat do not play well together at all (ahem RROD, ahem).
I cannot help but be a little bit cautious here to beta test what may end up being a $500+ piece of hardware from a company that does not have a stellar track record.
I mean the PS4Pro runs hot, and Sony has been in the hardware business for a long time.
Such a thing cannot be helped, it's not like you're caressing the console when you game. 😅
What I find interesting is that a simple picture of a processor chip can trigger so many fanboys. Does Xbox having a more powerful console really hurt that much? Really?
Paul from DJ writes "On this week’s episode of the DJ Podcast we discuss the delay of Red Dead Redemption 2. Also making news is the Xbox Scorpio and how developers can choose higher frame rates for Scorpio versions of games. This plus more on the DJ Podcast."
sony is well positioned now, they have had a lot of time to get many games to be shown at e3. they will show off more of gt sport, detroit, maybe the new god of war, days gone, and probably some actual gameplay for death stranding. sony is also notorious for showing games off very early to gather excitement. the wild card will be psvr and how commited they are. dreams will be at the forefront (which can be played without psvr) but what else does sony have up its sleeve for vr?
the big mistake microsoft could make is too much about scorpio and not enough on new games being announced. they need all of their games announced for 2017 to come out with no more delays, they need to show why scorpio is better than the ps4 pro and why gamers would want to invest. if they come out with a bunch of smaller titles like cuphead and not much in the way of aaa big titles they won't make much of a dent, because those games are what marketing gets the attention. we already seen what a game like zelda alone can do for nintendo.
lots of people are growing tired of the same cycle, gears, forza and halo. phil needs to prove THIS YEAR why the xbox is still relevant. crackdown 3, sea of thieves and state of decay 2 are a start but they need a heck of a lot more than that to not be upstaged by sony.
yup and will.
you cant "win" when all you are bringing to the table is a new way to play the old gmes people have already played.
MS needs to bring out new ips. and while yes they ahv stated they are unanounced titles, they are liekly refering to Forza 7 and probably new halo. hopefully there are some actualy brand new ips that inject some life and freshness into the xbox lineup. as rigth now, no amount of 4k gmaing will persuade me to spend 500+ on a console for 2 or 3 games
Yes Sony will! This is the year Sony's 1st party studio's are hitting their stride. And as shown with previous generations before once that happens Sony becomes like a immovable force of nature!
This generation is mirroring the PS2's generation on so many levels even down to the eventual release of Scorpio! During the PS2's era the original Xbox was in essence Scorpio!
Is that really an honest serious question?
An end of the year lineup cannot compete with a lineup that delivers throughout the entire year.
"As far as GT Sport goes Sony has a tall order as many consider Forza to be the best racing game on any console at this time"
When has Forza ever posed a threat to Gran Turismo commercially?