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Spencer: Xbox Aiming for Best Gameplay Experience, Not Playing “Catch-Up” With PlayStation

Xbox boss talks about where he sees Microsoft in this generation.

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Cindy-rella2764d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

lies. im still waiting for dx12 differences and the cloud technology on xbox one, lol. project scorpio is a reaction to the ps4 pro and the fact that the ps4 has almost 70 percent market share worldwide.

project scorpio hasnt been unveiled but confirmed to be coming holiday 2017 and ps4 neo has been rumoured to be coming months before any scorpio chatter. where are the photos of the xbox one scorpio?

Microsoft said their games wouldnt go to pc but now we know all microsoft xbox one games from now on will go to pc which is because ps4 hardware and software sales are way higher. xbox games going to pc is a reaction to ps4 being a lot more successful than the xbox one and selling a lot more software. Microsoft stopped giving out hardware and sales numbers is a reaction to being outsold by more than 2:1 by ps4 .

Paytaa2764d ago

How is Scorpio a reaction if it was the first of two unveiled?

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen2764d ago

Actually, rumors of the "Neo" surfaced months before rumors of Scorpio surfaced. I didn't believe the rumors myself, but obviously, I've been proven wrong.

Paytaa2764d ago

That's fine, but you guys act like the Scorpio started development as soon as the Neo leaks came out. That isn't the case. Scorpio was the first to be unveiled as more than a rumor. Both the Pro and Scorpio have probably been in development since the base consoles launched or a bit after. Both companies obviously had a similar approach before any details were leaked.

ILostMyMind2763d ago

Scorpio was not unveiled. Only promisses.

Phar0ahad32763d ago

Thats actually another Lie sony confirmed the Neo before the scorpio reveal....they just didnt need to waste time at E3 they had GAMES to show...

Muzikguy2763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

Edited :)

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Eonjay2763d ago

Isn't he really just saying that they can't catch PlayStation so instead of trying they are going to focus on their own thing?

Kingthrash3602763d ago

This is how it went.
Ps4 was more successful than the xbo....notater what xbo did...be it take away the kinect, have 4 price drops in 3 years bundle multiple games with it and started its gwg program. Still no real boost in sales way behind their targeted 200 mil sales by the end of the generation (wow) . The big thing they saw was the Internet exploding when it's resolution was consistently below the more cheaper ps4. Then the nx rumors popped up....the nx being a mystery it would be crazy to see the xbo fall behind the nx in power.....then the neo was rumored...and that's when the panic started. ..that's when phIL said "if we do make another console we won't make an xbox 1.5...it'll be a xbox 2" (not exactly worder for word of what he said bUT basically that )
Rumors spread that E3 might be where sony busts out the neo and nintendo busts neo...so what MS did was try to 1 up sony and nintendo. .. They rushed the scorpio announcement so they wouldn't potentially be the only company without an announcement. They gathered specs and planned the announcement. Like a few days before e3 sony was asked if they are bringing the neo and they said no. We will not, we will give it it's own stage. Nintendo was quit as they usually are and ms was the only one to reveal a console...but with literally NOTHING TO SHOW. They just talked about a few specs...that's entirely it. That alone shows how reactive they are.
That was the first time in the history of e3 that a console was announced without any footage, or box or games for it....they just talked about a few specs. H
Ask yourself...how is it not reactive?
How is it that they unveiled a console before everyone else but will release it after everyone else?
The pro is about a month away...the nx is rumored to be a few months after...the scorpio when it was unveiled was a full year and a half away.
Just crazy how much this company lies about the smallest of things.

nix2763d ago

Project Scorpio sounds like something that was made up in a week's time. I had predicted that MS is going to ditch Xbox 1 midway and announce new console. I was so right.

iTechHeads2763d ago

It's common sense dude.

Scorpio release = Fall-Holiday 2017
PS4 Pro release = Holiday 2016

That's a 1 year difference between release. It's obvious Microsoft knew about the PS4 Pro before it was officially announced. I mean, I KNEW ABOUT IT.

donthate2763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

Who cares if it is a reaction? It's not a pissing contest. I don't enjoy my console based on who did it first nor do I enjoy it based on who sold most. I enjoy it based on who did it best for what I want it.

MS can be second for as long as possible, and they can catch up, and steal ideas from their competitor all day long as long as they bring out some cool features too. Looking forward to:

* Best gaming network as tested by a third party company. Congrats to XBL! http://www.playstationlifes...
* Xbox Play Anywhere
* Xbox 360 backwards compatibility
* mod support
* cross-play (and willingness to do it with other consoles, Nintendo?)
* EA Access
* UHD Blu-Ray support
* 4K/HDR support
* the most powerful console ever built!!!
* highest fidelity VR on Scorpio
* upcoming/released exclusive games like Gears 4, Forza Horizon 3 (best racing game on console), Sea of Thieves, Halo Wars 2 (RTS!!!), and Crackdown 3 to mention a few.

Then I'm looking forward to XBL Cloud Compute next year with Crackdown 3. Can you imagine the visuals of Scorpio and the crazy physics in the cloud is going to yield?

Microsoft is a beast!!!

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen2763d ago

At least Phil Spencer is being realistic. There is no way the Xbox One is ever going to catch up to the PS4 during the remainder of this generation.

RegorL2763d ago

Ask yourself. What did Microsoft talk about? What did Microsoft show? How did developers react?

True 4k gaming
High fidelity VR
Removing barriers
Innovation
Latest technology
We want to deliver the worlds most powerful console
The console DEVELOPERS ask them to build
no boundaries
no limitations
our vision and our art come alive
when I saw these specs (note: specs nothing more, no prototype)
6TF
Most powerful GPU
Highest res, highest framerate
60Hz
Uncompressed pixels
8 CPU cores
6TF
it is a MONSTER

Let me try - Announcing the Meerkat
* 4k
* 12TF (Twice the power of a Scorpio, downclocked Vega)
* 16GB HBM2 memory (not max speed). Total of 408 GB/s
* 8 CPU cores (up clocked, improved architecture)
* It is a MONSTER (compared to other consoles)
* The worlds most powerful console (for a limited time)
* Vulkan API (AMD will release for their GPUs, so why not?)
* Release 2019
* Price? This is a premium product!

Things I wouldn't dare to say, because they would come back and bite me...
* without boundaries
* without limitations
* uncompressed pixels (there will be games that won't render at native resolution)

What did Microsoft show?
- What is most likely a CGI rendering from layout tool.
- No games running on it (not even target rendered)
- Not even the box! (finalizing happens quite late, a reason to show late...)

I could show the same, just remove the Memory chips.

Developers reaction
- Yea, I know they are building what we asked for... (not really their reaction)

How would developers react to mine?
- Who?

But I do not really care, developers finished with PS4 Pro will have moved onto something like that...

Fatal-Aim2763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

Of course he's going to say that just like he said the Xbox will close the last gap BEFORE it reached 2 to 1. He's the dang head in charge of Xbox. Why would he bring down his team and make the competition seem superior?

Everything he's done is a reaction to Sony’s PlayStation. And no, he's STILL behind on games.

C-H-E-F2763d ago

where did you get this information from @paytaa bing?

Aenea2762d ago

Actually no, the PS4 Pro was acknowledged to be real before E3, Scorpio wasn't until E3. Granted it's a 3 day difference, but still!

nineby92762d ago

Pro is real, Scorpio is marketing. Remember when word 2.0 became word 6? Ms have no compunction in lying in marketing. And ppl suck it up. I'm reminded of Led Zeppelin. "Nobodies fault but mine '

bouzebbal2762d ago (Edited 2762d ago )

Here we go again...
I will answer this guy that best gaming experience isn't better on more powerful devices. It's the polished gaming experiences that count.. A more powerful console adds to the realism and the graphics, gaming experience has nothing to do with that.
Keep believing the bs..

"That's fine, but you guys act like the Scorpio started development as soon as the Neo leaks came out."

How do you explain that reveal ??? Did they show anything ?
Sony or Nintendo could have done the same to "reveal" PS7 or NX years ago..

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Lennoxb632764d ago (Edited 2764d ago )

A reaction to the Pro huh? Why do you think MS put their exclusives on PC? So there'd be no work to be done to make them compatible with the Scorpio. They'll just apply PC assets. That's the real benefit of DX12. Quick porting with an upgrade in efficiency.

Cloud tech is currently being used. Cloud compute is actually being used for a PC title coming out well before Crackdown 3.

Gunstar752763d ago

Your sensible comments are not welcome here 😉

XanderZane2763d ago

Going see a LOT of Win 10 PC Exclusives magically appearing on the XB1 in the future. Could Star Citizen be one of them?

TheCommentator2763d ago

Yep. Don't know why Cindy can't see that for what it is.

•Win10 and DX12 will make developing games for the ecosystem significantly easier.
•DX12 is helping out a bit in games this year like FH3 and GeOW 4. 3rd party studios are just getting support features into their engines this year. Now all the major engines can support native DX12 and not just weak patches that hurt performance. Wait until engines finally utilize advanced graphics techniques like voxelixation, raster ordered views, and ray traced lighting. Then we'll see hardware accelerated XB1 features that PS4 will have to run through slow software instead.
•Where are all the cloud AI in Titanfall 2 MP? If cloud can be done by anybody on any platform, what's prevented Titanfall 2 from reaching the technical level of the first game? Let's face it, Titanfall 1 would not have supported cloud features if it were not exclusive because Sony's network is not up to the task on the scales needed to support their install base.
•Crackdown 3 is doing things with the cloud nobody's ever seen before and, in spite of announcing it years early, nobody else has announced anything similar in scope. Until somebody else actually does cloud enhanced gaming, the cloud is essentially exclusive territory of the Win 10 platform and Azure networks.

Stogz2763d ago

@TheCommentator are we talking about the amazing AI in Titanfall that stood there and let you shoot it? Let's not act like that AI was anything at all to brag about, gimme a break man...

Kingthrash3602763d ago

So where does that fit in with best gameplay experience? All they've been talking about is 4k and ultra bluray.
If we are talking gameplay then they really should be aiming at 60fps over 4k. They also should be more about games. I just see them making halos, gears, forza....and the rest will be 3rd party games. That's it.
They say THIS YEAR has the best lineup in xbox history. ...if that is what they think, then They are unaware of what ot takes to deliver "the best gameplay experience "

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen2763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

@Lennoxb63
I don't want to offend you, but your claim: "Why do you think MS put their exclusives on PC? So there'd be no work to be done to make them compatible with the Scorpio." : is ridiculous. Microsoft began offering Windows 10 versions of Xbox One games in order to:
1. Promote and encourage the adoption of Windows 10
2. To supplement the low sales numbers of software on the Xbox One console

donthate2763d ago

Exactly!

The 4GB of extra RAM is going to give Scorpio 4K textures, whereas PS4 Pro is going to get the same textures as on the XB1/PS4. On top of that, when PS4 is dropped, PS4 Pro is stuck with regular Blu-Ray format, which means not enough space for games. Scorpio, and XB1 S can support the UHD BR for games. More storage for more detailed textures.

Scorpio is really forward looking, whereas PS4 Pro is backwards looking.

rainslacker2763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

@donthate

You can fit 4K textures into the 8GB(5.5GB usable) in the PS4 or X1. Actually, there is no such thing as a 4K texture....unless that happens to be the size of the texture, which would be highly unlikely as that would be a massive texture for a GPU to render from, and a poor substitute with much less diversity for designing the graphics compared to quality and optimized textures, which typically are much smaller than even 1080, and most game engines use variants of the 8 bit scale, with 256x256, 512x512, and 1024x1024 being the most common.

The GPU doesn't care if the texture is a certain size, so long as that size is supported by the rendering pipeline. Objects themselves are made up using a projection method which wraps the texture around the object. The render pipeline will achieve this with any size texture, and scale it to the appropriate size where needed, both up and down depending on the scene. A single object can have several textures applied to it, and more complex objects often do. Other objects can have several objects served by the same texture. That's how textures work. Any hobbyist game designer, or expert game designer will tell you this, or that information is readily available in any tutorial about game design.

So, you're just wrong, although it's cute that you seem to think you understand how textures work in game engines.

The regular BR format can support up to 4 layers, hence 200GB of data. You don't need an UHD drive to read all the layers. The old PS3 could read all four layers if they ever needed it. I don't think it ever got an update to do so, because it never needed to. The current PS4 can read 3 layers, and a simple firmware update could make it read 4. This is part of the BR spec, and was the case from day one on the PS3. In any case, the games run from the hard drive, so speed of the BR drive is rather inconsequential, and 4K games aren't going to take up much more, if any, space than it's 1080 counterpart....unless you can say that this is happening now with the games that support 4K native on PC....which you can't, because they don't.

Anyhow, UHD BR is a standard for media output, has nothing to do with games. All the discs are is a storage medium to install the game from, and act as copy protection in the case of physical games.

TheCommentator2763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

Stogz, it was still missing from Titanfall 2, in spite of what you thought about the quality of the AI, but is that really all you could pick apart from my bulletpoints? I'll take that as a compliment.

miyamoto2762d ago

#thereisnocompetion - Uncle Phil

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AngelicIceDiamond2763d ago

Don't worry about it, you'll never plan on buying the console to experience any of it so why tf does it matter to you

ShadowKnight2763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

Microsoft is the biggest liar in the gaming industry.

game4funz2763d ago (Edited 2762d ago )

Shadow Knight is the biggest troll in comment history.

See. We can all make silly statements.

Biggest liar award currently goes to hello games that partnered with Sony.

Edit: okay maybe. Lol
Haven't seen him around though.

ShadowKnight2763d ago

Actually Rookie_Monster was the biggest troll in comment History. There I fix it for you :)

Kryptix2763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

@ShadowKnight

Actually, not was, still is with those spam accounts.

And with Phil Spencer's statements, they're flawed.

"The thing that’s probably most important to me and the team is not a direct competition with Sony and PlayStation in terms of catch-up. And people question whether I’d say that if we were in the lead, but I honestly kind of believe that. We don’t drive our program, thinking about how that’s the primary goal."

"Kind of believe that" like he's not even 100% sure he would of said the same things if Xbox was in the lead. A man does not say kind of if he truly knows the answer.
Then commences to say...

"...I want Xbox to be seen as a great consumer, gaming brand. ...And developers see it as the best platform for them to deliver their best work, and make the most money.”

To make the most money first is to have Xbox in the lead when it never was. How can he say that Sony isn't a direct competition when he brings up money which automatically places Sony as direct competition in that regard.

Whatever Phil...keep doing your thing, but I know that "savior" demeanor isn't going to last. The contradictions are starting to crack out and you know you and your team are playing catch up to your direct competition, Sony and PlayStation. Reason why I say this? One of the first examples was; touting Kinect as a vital part of the Xbox console, then to later on ignore it because PS4 didn't have a mandatory extra attached and thus, did better so they played "catch up" instead of going with their own plans, they remove it and don't even support it as being as what it could of been.

LastCenturyRob2763d ago

waiting for what? Both Dx12 and the cloud have already made differences. l...o...l Go back to bed little troll.

superchiller2763d ago

No, they really haven't. They're nothing more than marketing babble that makes no difference in gaming. Wake up!

ShadowKnight2762d ago (Edited 2762d ago )

DX12 is overrated hahaha 😂😂😂

http://www.dsogaming.com/ne...

badz1492763d ago

Why play catch-up if you already lost, right Spencer? Focus on what still possible but it's still a bit moot when your best games play best on PC. There's still UHD BD, right? Cheer up

lastking952763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

Lol if you had one you'd know those been arrived. Hard to be a reaction considering they annouced first. Considering spec was annouced before Sony how is it a Reaction? If McDonald's annouce a new burger then days later Burger King releases a new burger. Weeks after,Micky Ds release the burger. Mcdonald's is reacting? I can see if the burger changed from the announcement then yeah but if it's the same,no.

JackBNimble2763d ago

Ya first to announce... last to release, seems like a reaction to me considering we all knew NX is coming and the pro was confirmed just not announced.

Godmars2902763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

More like the Scorpio is trying to make up for limitations Kinect caused by XB1 being built around it.

The PS4 Pro is more like Sony reacting to Scorpio. 4k graphics as well as VR.

Concertoine2763d ago

The PS4 Pro and Scorpio are obviously made with different reasons though. Sony still plans on a PS5 while MS is abandoning the generation format with Scorpio. Scorpio is basically a next gen console being released early as a premium model, and the Pro is just a premium model PS4.

Godmars2902763d ago

"MS is abandoning the generation format with Scorpio."

What is that even suppose to mean?

MS could this, put out the Scorpio as a supposed "last" physical system, only to release others in succession a few year apart from each other. The mainstream market isn't put up with game systems put out on a nearly yearly basis even if they are fully BC.

badz1492763d ago

@Godmars290

"The PS4 Pro is more like Sony reacting to Scorpio. 4k graphics as well as VR"

I know those engineers at Sony are amazing and all but nobody knows about the Scorpio until E3 and even now, it's barely words of a 6TF "monster". But you're so convinced that Sony came up with a counter product and is all ready to sell it in just 5 months? Are you 12?!

And for you Sony is the one reacting with VR when they were the one already with a product already usable with the original PS4 while the Scorpio will likely adopt the Rift or Vive like PC? Wait...are you actually 10, not 12?!

Godmars2902763d ago

@badz149:
For me Sony is jack-s**t until they deliver something. That has always been my stand with them.

Likewise, my issue with the Xbox is that MS never simply offers something. They want money in addition which has meant multi-player, online and XBL gold. Look at any major project they do and it needs online.

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andrewsquall2763d ago

Lol more like a reaction to the GDDR5 capabilities of the PS4 that blew away everybody at the PS4 reveal (the part about it being 8gbs anyway, even Digital Foundry said there was no way it would be higher than 4gbs).
Its a reaction from Microsoft themselves and proof that the Xbone truly is an incredibly weak and disappointing 8th generation console when it comes to specs.
But as you say, yeah what happened to Cloud POWA and the likes of Crackdown 3?

ThePope2763d ago

I have both systems and have enjoyed my Xbox far more. Better online, better controller, better interface. Games play exactly the same and look basically the same. And before you say that's not true, A if it weren't we wouldn't have comparo videos as they would look starkly different, and B no one would buy a Xbox if the graphics were that much worse.

See here's where you're partially right; the Xbox is disappointing 8th gen console, but so is the PS4. Both consoles graphics look better and play better than the previous gen but not as much as people wanted.

The Scorpio is MS saying let's give this another crack. Neither companies saw what PC gaming would,be today otherwise they both would have made better consoles. Period.

XanderZane2763d ago

Crackdown 3 is still coming, just like The Last Guardian. lol!! Patience young Padawan.

Stogz2763d ago

@ThePope yeah I'm sure you have enjoyed your Xbox more, especially given the fact you're a known Xbox fanboy around here. Sorry pal no one will take your opinion seriously.

VoodooProject2763d ago

@Cindy-rella a fan girl or your other trolling accounts?

spicelicka2763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

And how does unveiling Scorpio and putting games on PC NOT equate to "Aiming for Best Gameplay Experience"?

Don't care for the reasons, as an Xbox owner I have FH3 and Gears 4 to look forward to this holiday. Got Halo wars 2, Scalebound, Sea of thieves, and Crackdown 3, for first half of next year. Then Scoprio and all the unannounced games for second half, which means better looking games and PC cross play, also being able to buy once and play on both Xbox and PC.

Seems like good gameplay experience to me.

ThePope2763d ago

Stop speaking logically. You're comment will get marked as trolling.

XanderZane2763d ago

Forza Horizon 3 is already a great experience for me. Every XB1 game will be played on my XB1. I don't need to build a better PC to enjoy all these games. Can't wait for Scalebound, Sea of Thieves and Crackdown 3 next year as well.

Automatic792763d ago

@Spicelicka

Well said, Don't forget Dead Rising 4, State of Decay 2 in December can't wait.

fonger082763d ago

Man, the PS "fandom" in this thread is... Interesting.

Anyways, Phil has done a decent job at least turning the perception that the "tv first" Xbox will have a decent future, especially since its initial reveal.

game4funz2763d ago

Very recently its been getting out of hand... They're literally swarming all the Xbox articles. Playstation articles are pretty empty.

Kribwalker2763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

And it's funny, if you said half the crap they are spewing on here in a PS article you would be immediatly flagged. Like honestly. Try changing the words from MS to Sony and copy and paste their comment in a Sony article.

ShowanW2763d ago

@Cindy-rella

dumbest comment of the day...

microsoft decided to spend billions of dollars in r&d and design scorpio based on the 'rumor' of "Neo" (which all PS4Pro was at the time)

a bit of common sense and logic would tell you that project scorpio (and the one s at that) are a combination of leaving the don mattrick era in the rear view mirror and also giving xbox enthusiast (and Developers) the xbox that they requested #ProjectScorpio

XanderZane2763d ago (Edited 2762d ago )

Scorpio was officially announced before the PS4 Pro. What are you talking about. Microsoft said not all their games would be going to the PC. There are still games like Sunset Overdrive, Forza 5, Rare Replay, etc.. that are not on PC. I wouldn't be surprised to see a few more XBox One exclusives in the future that will at least be timed exclusive.

@ShadowWolf712
There was no real info provided. All Sony said was, "Yes it exists". No specs or anything. Microsoft had mentioned a new hardware back at the GDC conference. Sony mentioned PS4 Neo after that. So believe what you want.
http://www.polygon.com/2016...

ShadowWolf7122763d ago

The "Neo" was confirmed days before E3 and also confirmed to not be present, actually.

FITgamer2763d ago

Phil already made it clear they wanted "win" this generation. Now he's just backpedaling.
http://www.gameinformer.com...

Lennoxb632763d ago

He said he "wanted" to. Not that he would.

XanderZane2763d ago (Edited 2762d ago )

Sony said they wanted to win last gen as well, but.... I'm sure Nintendo wanted to win this gen too, especially after launching a year in advance over PS4 and XB1. We saw how that turned out. Everyone wants to win something. Doesn't always turn out that way. In the end, the games are want gamers enjoy the most. Not the sales.

Phar0ahad32763d ago

Just more talking from this guy .....all this guy does is talk and stupid people believe it ..shuhei and no one from sony comes out everyday talking crap....he has been a proven liar several times before...he talks about providing the best game play experiences its been like 9 months since xbox has had a exclusive and the first one to drop (recore)got terrible review scores just like the last one(quantum break) (which by the way both are not even actually exclusive both are on PC) this is just a joke at this point ive always known american companies to be scummy but at this point people need to speak up about microsoft ....they dont even belong in gaming anymore (not like they ever did)all there games are going to PC (the few that they have literally like 10 games maybe not even that compared to sonys like atleast minimum 100) play them there while every other gaming company actually innovates...

seatunt2763d ago

You realize these are scheduled interviews, were he's sought after to talk about this stuff. It's not like he holding conferences on his on accord to speak freely everyday...

game4funz2763d ago

Shuhei Yoshida said "if" when asked about a ps5....
He a liar too?

rainslacker2763d ago

While I kind of agree with you, you can't deny that MS execs constantly talking is keeping them in the news, and thus, keeping the conversation going about Xbox, and in some ways, even leading to more discussion about MS/Xbox than for Sony.

Not that I find the constant interviews and relays of tweets to be really all that interesting half the time, because it does just seem more like tooting one's own horn, but the PR is doing what PR should do.

I won't really comment on if I feel the PR is valid or if they're just trying to blow smoke. I think there is some truth in all of it, but I've seen MS work long enough, even longer than they've been in the console race, to know that everything they say has some sort of catch.

I do feel Spencer is better than other MS execs, and does genuinely want to make Xbox a popular global brand, but I also know that MS doesn't give him free reign, and he has to work within the confines of MS overall goals, and express the PR accordingly. So basically, I do trust Spencer to be pretty much a straight shooter, but I don't trust MS corp. in the least.

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JohnCB982763d ago

This is the dumbest fanboy head-up-the-a** comment ever. It's obvious you aren't inform of news and speak opinion as truth.

Let me start destroying your comment:

1. DX12 wasn't meant to be a graphic enhancement. Developers have said this. Phil has said this. DX12 was blown up by extreme proportions from the internet fanboys. DX12 application is meant to be ease of development for PC and Xbox cross platform games. UWP...this is what DX12 was for. No secret sauce.

2. Cloud application was Microsoft bid to add additional computing to games to create enhancements to gameplay. For example: Diffculty of bots, cloud saving, small enhancement of gameplay like dust particle effects and of those sorts. Problem is internet infrastructure isn't that great and adequate enough to be efficient. Especially with data caps by ISPs.

3. Project Scorpio was announced, showing video of the motherboard. It exist and it will arrive holiday 2017. Google is your friend, rumors of Scorpio was surfacing a year prior to reveal, including the S Xbox and 'media stick Xbox'. Also, if you look at the 2012 5 year plan leak document, this sheds truth to this. Neo came into the picture a few months before the reveal based on leaks. There have been battles on N4G about this. Both are going their own direction and either was a reaction to another.

4. The original Xbox (originally was called Direct X Box internally) was vision as a console that can play PC games at a affordable price. None of this is a reaction to one another. They both have different strategies. Microsoft is going back to the old playbook they had with the original Xbox and finding ways to increase their install base.

5. As you well know, Xbox games that come to PC are Windows games. Windows is owned by Microsoft. The PC you probably own is running a Microsoft platform. If you hate Microsoft that much, get rid of the OS that's running your computer and go Linux or Mac.

6. Stop spreading bs. Be happy there is competition and they're pushing their platform to be great.

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rainslacker2763d ago

1. Kind of true, it wouldn't improve graphics themselves. However, it is a performance gain due to a more efficient rendering pipeline, with more control given to the user(programmer). This was mostly superfluous for consoles, outside some changes to the rendering pipeline. So, while it wasn't meant specifically to improve graphics, it did have that side effect due to higher efficiency in performance metrics, allowing more to be done per loop.

I do agree though that the fan boys did hype it up to extreme proportions, not really understanding what it was, or what it was meant to do, and to Spencer's credit, he did actively try to curb that hype on numerous occasions.

2. Again, true. But MS did indeed try to make it into more than it was, and the fan boys tried to make it into even more. The rest of your statement is accurate though.

3. Hate to tell you, that motherboard you see is a 3D rendering, probably made from the early design of the system on the R&D level. Motherboards don't look like that, as traces aren't black for a hidden boards. The APU is also much too small for the proposed specs/rumored core that it will contain....although I'll concede that it could maybe get that small with the 14nm finfet tech. The pictures we see of the Scorpio main board are meant to look cool, and it is possible to dye traces, but that'd be dumb, and increase the cost. An early design board for testing certainly isn't going to be that clean in design. It may be further along than some are assuming though, but it's pure speculation on when they started, or where it's current production is at.

Not sure if the other rumors were for Scorpio, or just common sense...in the case of the slim. However, it's quite possible that it's been in the works for a while now. For what reason though, again, is just pure speculation. If it were, then I do question why Spencer would ask people's thoughts on a mid-gen upgrade, as that makes it seem like MS may have been unsure if it was a good idea. That was kind of when all these rumors blew up.

4. The OGXbox wasn't meant to be a system that could play PC games. It was meant to use the common PC DX API in their own system, and hopefully gain more support as devs would be more willing to port games since they were already using DX. At the time however, DX was still fairly rough around the edges, but was gaining traction. MS, however, did make the OGXbox to compete against Sony, because they saw Sony gaining in market share for a place that they wanted to be a part of. Sony's goals of being a center of the living room were clearly stated, and MS had that same goal. MS stated directly, that this was why Xbox was made, so I'd call that a reaction.

5. No comment on that. Technically all true, although I feel the context is often misused by those trying to change it from a console, to a platform.

6. Will agree here. BS gets spread a lot. And competition is good for the most part.

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game4funz2763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

Lies. Nothing is a reaction to Ps4. Quit your silly assumptions and how about listening instead of making stuff up.

And actually they reworded their statements about all Xbox games being play anywhere in the future.

Dx12 does help. Or at least it's supposed to. These things take time. Sit back and relax.. Dx11 didn't suddenly become super popular either. It took time too.

Red_Renegade2763d ago

almost everything microsoft did this generation is a reaction to ps4.

rainslacker2763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

Maybe they shouldn't announce these things years in advance, and use them as selling points if they're going to take time. It's a bit disingenuous to sell your system on technologies that are many years away from showing their true potential. Almost 3 years in, but no meaningful effect from DX, and no meaningful showing of cloud tech. How much longer do we have to wait?

I said back when DX and cloud were the secret sauce du jour, which was at the start of this gen, that it would take years, if not even show anything this gen, for this tech to show any measurable gain for the end user, and at that time, EVERY MS fan boy was saying how I was wrong and it was going to turn the tides sooner rather than later.

Now, when 4 years rolls around, you can finally get that awesome cloud tech in CD3....and to experience it to it's fullest, all you need is a Scorpio. Because if you think MS isn't going to gimp the X1 version in favor of Scorpio to make Scorpio more desirable, you're deluded....which people will disagree with me now on, and then find reasons why it's OK later. CD3 is MS only 1st party IP left besides Halo and Forza, for them to really show off what Scorpio can do, and I have no doubt that CD3's development focus has shifted to Scropio features being more favored than supporting the existing users.

I urged people to show restraint, and said maybe they should wait for MS to actually show what these technologies could do with actual products for the consumer, and actually deliver said products, before people started hyping them up. But again, EVERY MS fan boy was out in full force to say how awesome it was, and how meaningful it was, and went to great lengths to make it seem like it was just around the corner.

But your comment begs the question, if it just takes time for things to show their true potential, why bother with Scorpio when it's released? Why not just wait until it does something to actually show off that potential?

Also, DX11 was pretty popular on 360 when it released. Took about 6-12 months for software to be made for it on 360 after it was put on the 360. Not almost three years, and the gains were immediately apparent.

game4funz2762d ago

@red
Could you please just stop following me around like a child. Thanks.

@rainslacker
I agree with you in most of what you said. I wouldn't know what the fanboys use etc and I don't really care but there is one difference between dx 11 and 12

The 360 became the #1 platform devs were developing for and therefore probably got used to Dx11 much faster then Dx12... This gen playstation non dx console has taken front seat and devs are focusing there when developing their games. That could be the reason for dx 12 gains not being apparent yet
...
Although I did hear gears 4 is fully utilizing Dx12 not sure if that's completely true or not.

zb1ftw7772763d ago

You seem very insecure and defensive.

iTechHeads2763d ago

Yup. Why else announce a product that is nowhere near final specs? They wanted to one-up Sony's announcement of the PS4 Pro. It's pretty obvious when you see Albert Penello at those other Microsofts spokesmen bashing the PS4 Pro left and right. Their agenda here is pretty obvious.

oSHINSAo2763d ago

Still wating for Remote Gameplay on ps4

oONinjavitiSOo2763d ago

What do mean? You can remote play ps4 on xperia, vita, and on pc.

Kribwalker2763d ago

How is the garbage this guy spews not consistently flagged. I'm going to start copy and pasting his post and insert Sony instead of MS and watch how quickly it would get flagged. Cmon Mods, sort it out.

Deeke2762d ago (Edited 2762d ago )

Photos don't exist because Project Scorpio's hardware hasn't been released yet. At best they have a devbox that simulates the console's hardware, ie like every other console in gaming history.

DCadence2762d ago

I agree on all points Cindy-rella. Microsoft getting trampled this gen has been good though because they have upped their game. I am looking forward to the end product, not the hype train surrounding paper specs. Not that the Scorpio will not be a beast of a machine, it's just that Microsoft tends to trump up tech talk only to under deliver and that's real talk.

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EpicSandwich2764d ago

I like the direction he is taking, let the competition focus on sales while you focus on having the best gameplay and that is showing these days

Rimeskeem2764d ago

uhm, I can play 95% of xbox games on PC.

ShottyatLaw2763d ago

Then do so. They're not trying to stop you.

Bluemaster772763d ago

I doubt you have a PC thats capable ...

Kribwalker2763d ago

And that's awesome. With play anywhere I've played Forza horizon 3 with my oldest kid on his PC and my younger kid on my 2nd Xbox at the same time while only having to buy one copy of the game. What is wrong with that?

DeadlyOreo2763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

Epic Sandwich getting real defensive. It's hilarious. The guy is losing it.

NeoGamer2322763d ago

So what is your point?

To me that helps the experience. I play Quantum Break, Recore, and Forza Horizon 3 on both my console and my PC. I bring my gaming laptop when I travel and at home I have the big screen experience with my console and TV. My progress is saved on all devices. I used to lug around an Xbox in a suitcase with a GAEMS case. Now I just take the laptop I always take and can game anywhere with these games.

There is no reason that I shouldn't be able to buy a game on any device whether it be PS4, Wii U, X1, Vita, DS, tablet, phone, and PC and be able to play the game on any of those devices. The concept of an exclusive has been anti-consumer since day one. I would like to have greater access to my games and saves across all my devices. There is no reason why I should be forced to buy a specific device to play a specific game. That is an anti-consumer approach. To differentiate, devices should not do so through content but features and functionality they provide.

Goldby2763d ago

@epic.

just a news flash. MS doesn't own Personal Computers. Every single PC, laptop is not made by MS, yes they have Windows, but many people are like me, on windows 7 or 8 and sue Steam (far better than anything MS can do) for games. only thing i play thats from MS on MY PC is Solitaire. everything else is through steam.

XanderZane2763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

PC = Microsoft. Thank you for continuing to support Microsoft and the Windows 10 platform. Game on.

Now try playing all those XB1 games on a NON-Microsoft platform. Good luck.

To all the disagrees - Truth is hard to swallow, I know. You don't agree. Uninstall Windows 10 and try playing those XB1 games on your PC. What.. ? It won't play? You PC is more powerful then an XB1 right, but it still won't run without Win10?

JohnCB982763d ago

Yep, but you're still playing on a Microsoft platform. What's your point?

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game4funz2763d ago

What does that have to do with anything he said....

PFFT2763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

And??? At least there are option where to play Xbox games and that is never a bad thing. Its only the Sony fanboys that see the bad in this.

azizlksa2763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

yes go ahead and do that. Most games arent optimized well and dont support sli, and most people have issues with running horizon 3 at 1080p 60 fps. You need something like gtx 1080 to run horizon 3 at ultra settings.

oSHINSAo2763d ago

And MS is Happy you play those games on Windows

Black0ut2763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

You act as if by doing so you're giving a big finger up to MS... They WANT you to buy them on PC as well. That's why they have RELEASED them on pc!

I also highly doubt that 90% of the one-sided people on this site even have capable pc's...That's why xbox is still quite relevant because it's far more convenient for people and far less cheaper (far less powerful to higher end rigs as well of course).

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GameBoyColor2764d ago

PC is the best place to play xbox games lmao. Oh and this "That's like saying I can play all Sony games on a PlayStation" is not correct.
The difference is you can't play ps4 exclusives anywhere else. just like you can't play wii u exclusives anywhere else. While you can play xbox "exclusives" somewhere else.

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BossBattle2763d ago

Playstation Now is coming to PC. There are already talks of Uncharted 4 being on PS Now eventually.

Kribwalker2763d ago

Yes you can play them on another MS owned platform in windows 10 which has more then 350 million devices out there. They have now opened their user base of potential customers to more then every PlayStation console combined. Explain to me how that's bad, when more money is made on software sales then console sales

DeadlyOreo2763d ago

Bossbattle

Keep dreaming boy. You might get a chance to play a real decent exclusive.

Goldby2763d ago

@boss.

Sorry mate, PS NOW is just ps3 games.
So i guess you can play Uncharted 1-3 on PC, but not 4. you need a ps4 for that one

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shiva12763d ago

When one is able to play Halo on PC then lets talk about it. Scorpio will not have exclusives even but lets wait and see.

XanderZane2763d ago

PC is a Microsoft platform. If it wasn't, you wouldn't be able to play XB1 games on it. You can't play XB1 games on any Playstation, Wii or NX platforms. You can however play some Playstation games on PC.

game4funz2763d ago

Shhhh @bossbattle

Youll ruin the surprise... The fanboys will literally have a seizure when that happens.

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peewee110162763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

Gameplay? Other then Gears and Halo what other exclusive do you have. Ps4 has 3-5 new Exclusive a year then a break then comes back with force again.
@shiva1- Pargon,UC4,The Last Guardian, Gran Turismo Sport,Rachet and clank,Dream, The tomorrow children,Gravity Rush 2,Drawn to death,Dream(*) Street fighter 5, Nier Automata, NMS
How many more you want buddy?

DillyDilly2763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

Quality over quantity as not every exclusive is a hit blockbuster game as well & any exclusive well never sell as much as it could since its exclusive to one platform most of the time & not all people on that platform will be interested in it

shiva12763d ago

One was UC4 and another was NMS. What are the other 3? Its ok take u r time. If its Indies then forget it.

jmetalhead778122763d ago

By next week I will have purchased 4 console exclusives for the year. Have enjoyed the first 3 very much, and I could care less about review scores. I'm an adult and make decisions for myself and don't need "experts" to influence my purchases. Plus, numerous BC games that I didn't play last gen I can play now. Next...

Nitrowolf22763d ago

@shiva

Well

Gravity rush
The Last gaurdians
A bunch of vr games

game4funz2763d ago

Some in your list may be timed and or are just console. Don't need a Ps4 for those.

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Skillz12152763d ago

focus on gameplay huh? so i guess have the same 3 games every year with no exclusives is the way to go then?

DJStotty2763d ago

i can name 3 new ip's that have launched on the xbox one platform in the last year,

give it up with the "xbox has the same 3 exclusives"

do some research

andrewsquall2763d ago

How so? Are you referring to the hours and hours of Live action cutscenes from the biggest overhyped Xbone game so far for the console??? Or is it Recore that proved to lack very much in the gameplay department and was an overall disappointment??? (although that CGI E3 2015 "gameplay" trailer had you all hyped as shit lol)

So because the glorious Phil said it, Sony are just focused on sales now and are done with amazing actual exclusives like this year's Alienation, Ratchet and Clank and Uncharted 4? You really do cling to anything this chap says don't you?

ThePope2763d ago

A. you sound really angry. We're just talking about video games here. B. Forza H3 is considered by critics and fans one of the best games this gen, Recore does have mixed reviews, and QB is Actually pretty great. Saying something has live action doesn't make it bad bro. C. R&C was great, and UC4 was so over hyped it's insane. The game is a solid 8 but nothing higher. ND focused on graphics over gameplay. Every time I had to climb again I rolled my eyes.

I don't think it's Sony that's focusing on sales I think it's guys like you. The fact is that a lot,of exciting things are happening in the world of Xbox/PC and it seems you guys are mad. I'm sorry the PS pro isn't the powerhouse you guys hoped. And I'm sorry that if I buy a X1 cross play game I now can play against 200 million people. And I'm sorry Scorpio is going to be the most powerful, feature rich, place to play games. Oh and it will have the best controller ever made. I'm sorry.

rainslacker2763d ago

To be fair, the game play of Recore wasn't really the problem with it. Although it wasn't that deep overall, it was pretty spot on most of the time. It only lacked in a couple places on the game play front, and that lacking seemed to be more from the point of view that it was over-simplified in certain parts.

Recore wasn't really bad, but it had issues which made the experience less enjoyable.

TheGamingArt2763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

Best gameplay? Sir, you're associating the wrong platform with 'best' gameplay if you're indeed looking at games ....

yomfweeee2763d ago

You're right, Sony does focus on sales.... by being the best.

Jburr942763d ago

Oh shut up, his buddy executives started caring about sales again once Xbox won 2 NPDs in America. You can't have it both ways.

game4funz2763d ago

His buddy
.... Grow up.
He didn't and that's what matters. Sales are stupid.

remixx1162763d ago

Look at what @Andrew said.

Some how you let Phil sweep the propaganda broom so hard across your face that you honestly believe that they have the best "gameplay experience".

Keep in mind that it's all subjective at the end of the day but if we were to compare scores of the games MS has yet to release a game that cracks a 90 average while sony has already released 3 and playstation games on average are rated higher (keep in mind subjectivity).

MS also has not released anywhere near as many games as sony.

For the released games this year Sony has gravity rush remaster, street fighter 5, mlb the show 16', alienation, ratchet and clank, uncharted 4, no man's sky, king of figamers 14.

For games coming this fall and early next year>March sony has the last guardian, nioh, gravity rush 2, persona 5, horizon zero dawn, final Fantasy 12 remaster, mlb the show 17', nier automata.

Also announced games like spider man, crash bandicoot remaster, death stranding, God of War 4, days gone, deep down, FF7 remake, worlds of FF, ni no kuni 2, dreams and more.

Soray for the long winded post but before you get defensive and let that "best line up" bullshit get in your head from Phil try to at least understand the "competition" isn't all about sales. In fact they are more about gameplay experience than anyone.

jmetalhead778122763d ago

FH3 is scored at 91(not that it really matters), so everything you said after that holds no weight. You might want to do some research before you write a book

remixx1162763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

How does my post lose merit because of one game that just released??

How c about tell epic to do some research on what ps is doing gameplay wise before he makes a dumbass statement.

King_Lothric2763d ago

You, obviously, don't know anything about businesses.

Kryptix2763d ago

Except, MS is focusing on sales by Phil literally saying in the interview,

"Developers see it as a place where they can deliver their best content, reach the most customers. And while it’s not the most sexiest [sic] thing to say, make the most money. That’s the thing that keeps game development going." -Phil

sales = money

These fanboys don't even read what Phil says! LOL

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Rimeskeem2764d ago

Then give the Xbox actual exclusives.

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AngelicIceDiamond2763d ago

Its still selling with out its games being exclusive to its platform. The rest of the world does not care, so there's nothing stopping you, oh wait imaginary fanboy goal posts that's right and walls of weak excuses. You don't like Xbox ok that's fine then stay in articles that suit you, if not then you're gonna continue to get schooled for your anise comments.

moegooner882763d ago

Same. Sold my Xbox one cause of this.

ThePope2763d ago

So you have a gaming PC yes?

GrubsterBeater2763d ago

My boss just told me last night that he sold his XBOX One for a PS4 for the same reason.

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Bluemaster772763d ago

A smart business is to just make great games. You guys are obsessed with the idea of making game inaccessible to a difference audience. Very strange

joeorc2763d ago

@Bluemaster771h ago
[A smart business is to just make great games. You guys are obsessed with the idea of making game inaccessible to a difference audience. Very strange]

So no problem than to allow Xbox one & Windows 10 games release on PlayStation & Nintendo's system as well as Linux & Mac right?

"You guys are obsessed with the idea of making game inaccessible to a difference audience. Very strange"

Yes very strange indeed/S

andrewsquall2763d ago

What is strange is that only 7 months ago the idea that Quantum Break coming to PC was completely laughable and Microsoft "would never be so stupid to do something like that"................... the catch..........this is what Xbone fans were saying.

Would you have ever thought in early 2016 that by years end you would be trying to convince yourself that exclusive games to a games console mean nothing? Very strange indeed.

Oh and you should definitely email Microsoft about these "great games", they could get right on that. Sunset Overdrive was great but that was almost 2 years ago now.

trooper_2763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

If the games are available on another platform, it's not exclusive. Why would I want an XB1 if it doesnt have must have games I want to buy?

constantine_man2763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

I mean, as far as console gamers are concerned they are exclusives. Whenever the "MS gave all its exclusives to PC" argument comes up all of a sudden every PS fanboy has this beast rig to play MS exclusives. You don't, because if you did own a gaming PC, you wouldn't be a Sony fanboy. The idea of putting exclusives on PC is that PC gamers (like myself) weren't ever going to buy the console no matter what games you have on there. You can't compete with the PC platform, so why not just join it. You think Sony made PS Now on PC available because they just felt like it?

joeorc2763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

@constantine_man

[You think Sony made PS Now on PC available because they just felt like it?]

Yes , just like they made PSNow available on SmartTV's before it was released on PC, just like they made it available on the PS3, PS4 and PSTV again before the release on PC, Just like they made PlayStation Now available on xperia smartphone's & Tablets again before Sony released it on PC, just like Sony is releasing PlayStation Now on Mac & Linux also..

Here is a Hint..when it comes to PlayStation Now..Windows PC's is just another device that Sony has turned into a PlayStation Node that they can gain a Possibility of monetization on.

👏

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x_BlackRose2763d ago

Very smart words. I'm a Playstation fan through and through(still getting an Xbox though) but rather than worry about moving systems to fight an uphill battle. Focus on what matters most, the experience you can sell to your customers. I'm excited as a gamer to see what they can bring. I'm a gamer first, and Playstation fan 2nd

GrubsterBeater2763d ago

"I'm a gamer first, and Playstation fan 2nd"

So am I. I used to play everything. I still play on everything EXCEPT XBox. The reason for this is not because I'm a "fanboy", it is because not only does XBox never release anything that interests me, but they are also a plague to gaming. I know I will get disagrees, but it is the truth. XBox has been ruining gaming since it's inception. They are trying to change gaming for the worse, and if you disagree with me, I don't care.

If MS can start releasing some good games, and stop with their grimey ways, then I will consider buying one.

Black0ut2763d ago

"So am I. I used to play everything. I still play on everything EXCEPT XBox."

So you're not really then, because you just stated your bias in your first line.

"but they are also a plague to gaming. I know I will get disagrees, but it is the truth."

That isn't the truth, that your one-sided opinion. If you were a gamer first you wouldn't have the need to hug one brand and bash the other.

Bjorn-c-blocker2763d ago

Not only is this comment one of the most fanboy comments I have ever read.. it is also totally untrue. MS makes good games and PC gamers are very happy that they are coming to PC..

Also... Sony is a faceless cold corporation they got into gaming to make money. They dont love gaming they are not even a software company.

GrubsterBeater2763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

You guys can call me a fanboy all you want, but I have been gaming for decades. I have played and loved every system EXCEPT XBox One. Even XBox 360 was decent, not great, but that was when they started being shady.

This is not because I'm a fanboy, it is because of a lack of interesting titles IN MY OPINION, combined with the grimey tactics and draconian policies that MS have implemented into gaming as a way to attempt to take control of the gaming market. So you can call me a fanboy all you want, but this is what I believe. If I don't like XBox and I don't like MS ad a company, then I'm automatically a fanboy? Ridiculous. That's just like these people who say that if you don't want Hilary Clinton to be President because of her lying, and evil ways, then you are automatically a Trump supporter and a racist.

You guys need to learn that not everybody loves MS and the XBox like you guys do, and some people see through MS's lies, PR, and draconian policies that are hurting gaming in general. I don't care if you do not agree with me, but don't call me a fanboy because I don't think MS is the best thing since sliced bread.

This may be hard for you actual fanboys to believe, but some people who don't like MS and XBox AREN'T fanboys. Hard to comprehend, I know.

Xb1ps42763d ago (Edited 2763d ago )

I can get you saying Xbox games don't interest you, that's fiine.... But a plague to gameing?!

Then you go on to say "it is true" please tell me how it's true that ms is ruining gaming..

And just so you know everything means everything... You can't throw Out there that you play everything then say except such and such lmfao...

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miyamoto2762d ago

and everywhere on the internet Xboxers are touting about "competition" is good while uncle Phil says otherwise.

#thereisnocompetion

RFLMAO

Minute Man 7212763d ago

Don't worry M$ it's the 3rd console curse that happens to all

PhoenixUp2763d ago

Yet Microsoft's third console is performing better than all of its predecessors

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Sega Franchises That Deserve a Comeback

We explore the Sega classics that are ripe for revival! From Panzer Dragoon Saga to Virtua Fighter, discover why these legendary games deserve a comeback on next-gen consoles. Dive into a nostalgic journey and see which Sega titles are set to captivate a new generation of gamers in 2024.

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ZeekQuattro4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Turned based Phantasy Star and Shinning Force remain at the top of my list of Sega IPs that need to return. At the very least I'd take a Shining Force collection that has 1,2,3, CD and the Game Gear entries.

FinalBoss4d ago

I was hesitant to put these two on. I've personally played more PSO than the RPG version. And shame on me, I don't remember much about Shining Force to talk about it properly.

That said, so many Sega licences deserve their place in this list.

jznrpg2d ago

A new Phantasy Star in the numbered series would be amazing. Shining Force too. But I’d settle on some collections as that’s probably the best we will get

anast4d ago

I don't trust Sega to do a proper comeback. The games will be just remastered and/or monetized to death.

gold_drake3d ago

shining force.

but indont see that happening unfortunately.

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Former Blizzard President Suggests Players Should Have Option to Tip Developers

Former Blizzard president Mike Ybarra recently suggested an interesting concept that has sparked a debate among gamers - the idea of being able to tip developers after completing a game.

LG_Fox_Brazil10d ago

If I had a 100% way to be sure that this money would go to a fund or a reserve dedicated only to the guys who develop the games, be them designers, artists, programmers and so on, I could think about it.

But we all know that this 'tip' would only end up in a publisher's CEO pocket to buy a new yacht, so, no, I ain't tipping anyone anytime soon on this industry

neutralgamer19929d ago

Exactly these companies were raising money for good causes and gamers were donation and come to find out they are keeping a good chunk of be pie

PapaBop9d ago

Yeah tip your developer, 5% proceeds go to developer, 95% to the publisher or whoever. Isn't tipping for staff not making minimum wage? How about they just pay their developers properly and like you know, give them fair bonuses? Too much to ask from Blizzard these days, Kotick saw to that and is now laughing all the way to the bank.

MrDead9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

It's the t**ts at the top looking at ways to cut devs wages and get the players to tip them like waiting staff, and I'll guarantee a percentage is skimmed and kept by Activision Blizzard. This is 100% for shareholder and CEO playouts.

Popsicle9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

I have to agree with this. On the surface tipping devs sounds like a great idea, but in the end it leads to pay cuts and subsidization of pay. Tips then become an expectation or the devs “can’t make a living.” Lastly, especially in the US, tip culture has gotten out of control, and it serves as an excuse not to properly pay employees. Sounds good but doesn’t end well.

drizzom8d ago

@ Popsicle

I think your right on the nose with how much tipping has become rampant. Instead of it being a relationship directly between the customer and the developer or employee, it now has a middle man ingrained in the system. DoorDash is one example. It ends up becoming a metric where the company can measure 'just how much more money you are willing to part with' before raising the price on the main product.

1Victor9d ago

Uh so they’re trying triple dip or more we buy the game that they’re already withholding/cutting content for dlc we was told that season pass would help the developers thrive we felt for it.
Now on top of all that plus their sales bonus they want tips enough is enough whatever happens to you create/built a good game get a bonus for sales milestones you care about your game and community we reward you with more sales not for doing 3/4 of a game then save the other 1/4 for dlc and passes after

raWfodog9d ago

The 'tip' is me buying your game in the first place.

S2Killinit9d ago

Very well said. If it was possible to send the money to either the developer or some organization for the betterment of gaming, sure. But we all know that will not be the case.

Rynxie9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

No, it would go to those on the top. They will still fire developers, have a bunch of microtransactions, raise prices of games and so on.

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H910d ago

So they eventually don't pay their workers and depend on our tips to pay them like the case with waiters!

Deeeeznuuuts9d ago

That kind of practice is only normal in the states, as far as I know anyway, what a backwards system

H99d ago

No it's as well in a every country that wants to amercanize

bloop9d ago

Ireland is literally the first stop across the pond and we don't have a tipping culture. The only establishments here that would expect a tip are the tourist haunts that Americans visit. Other than that, you might tip in a restaurant as a sign of gratitude for great service and waiting staff would be paid a full wage anyway.

Rebel_Scum9d ago

Tipping is not customary iin most countries dude. Get a passport lol.

Jin_Sakai10d ago

Is this a joke? How about the big wigs giving up some of their pay for their hard working developers.

MrBaskerville9d ago

Maybe the CEO could earn his money based on tips.

mastershredder10d ago

good god. The devs are not baristas dude. Total 1% ideals. Fing Chadosaurus.

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