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PlayStation Now Coming to PC, DualShock 4 USB Wireless Adaptor Unveiled

"We’re excited to announce that PlayStation Now is making the jump to Windows PC. The app launches overseas in parts of Europe soon and will come to North America shortly thereafter."

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Mystogan2801d ago

i'll never buy a Playstation. But I do have a gaming PC. This is pretty great for me.

joeorc2801d ago (Edited 2801d ago )

Of course it's great for only Mac and PC gamers wanting to play some Legacy , PS1, PS2 and Some PS3 games..

It's under a stream Subscriptions model so it's good if you feel that's all you really would need a PlayStation system for anyway

And the adapter allows you to use the Dual shock to be used for even PC games and Applications, support for that functionality is not supported by Sony though. That's up to a developer.

But it does cut out the extra expense of PC or mainly only Xbox gamers wanting to only play a few of playstation exclusive legacy only game's, but it does not have PS4 games, it's streaming only, and not all games are in the catalogue even older PS1, PS2 and PS3 ..

Though there is over 300+ games currently.

hells_supernova2801d ago

Give it time soon enough all PlayStation games will be available via streaming on all devices. TV, Mobile, Console and PC and this is a great thing.

It gives all gamers access for a monthly fee or a rental fee. It gives people access to he best games available especially if you want story driven games like The last of Us, Uncharted, Infamous, Heavy Rain etc

Also excited to use my dualshock wirelessly on my PC

yomfweeee2801d ago

PC only at this time, not Mac (they are evaluating that).

UltimateMaster2801d ago

Heh, it's only PS3 games, games that are already outdated, under-powered... it is responsive tough, there's very little lag.
Rather than buying a bunch of games from last gen, you could play a bunch of them with PS Now.

freshslicepizza2801d ago (Edited 2801d ago )

Smart move by Sony, no need to limit your software if you don't have to.

mikeslemonade2801d ago

Nope.. Too much latencey. I hate game streaming. It should be banned just like mobile games should be banned. I hope Hilary starts banning certain things that are lame.

kneon2801d ago (Edited 2801d ago )

@mikeslemonade

Sounds like you've never tried it or have a really crappy connection

Bahamut2801d ago

Haha, old games. It should be called "PS THEN"

Amirite??

...Okay, I'll leave.

fr0sty2801d ago (Edited 2801d ago )

Sony is prepping for the new normal... Soon all (even PS4) games will be streamable to anybody even if they don't own a PS console. So, you can choose to buy the console and get the top quality experience, or you can just pay a fee and stream the games instead if you don't want to purchase a console. Eventually, when the stream quality catches up to the local machine quality, they'll stop making new consoles.

s45gr322801d ago

What if Sony is forced to release PS4 games on PlayStation Now due to PC gamers demand for PS4 streaming games.

abstractel2801d ago

Not that interested in PS Now personally, but happy for people that are, but I do want that adapter. Think it's bit overpriced though if you compare to Logitech adapters... My DS4's square button is getting a bit sticky (got it at launch) so I need a new one so a new DS4 + the PC adapter is a bit pricey for what you are getting. I do love the DS4 though, the XboxOne elite looks nice and I am not sure where it stacks up price wise with the DS4/PC Adapter combo but I think it's fairly close?

And that PS Plus+ price hike... I thought Sony was making bank of people's subscription to PS Plus+, I wonder why they felt they needed to raise the price. If there was actually a good reason or just greed at the expense of player's wallets. I do feel you get a lot from PS Plus+ overall (not the free games really, but the rest) but I do wish the OS would be updated a bit more significantly. Folders are finally coming but it's pretty overdue. I do like the media player, apps like Plex (love Plex!) and even Playstation TV service whatever it's actually called (good substitution for cable TV). Still wish there was a bit more innovation on that side, especially if they are up'ing the price.

I'd love to make my own custom themes, but I guess they wouldn't release that as they'd loose money... Still annoying as most of them are rubbish and you have to dig through a lot to find the good ones.

mikeslemonade2801d ago

Yes I have tried it. For ninja gaiden I couldn't connect the combos because of the latencey.

LexHazard792801d ago (Edited 2801d ago )

Yeah but eventually those PS4 games will be on PS Now too. I know some PS4 gamers are downplaying this saying its only legacy games...yeah for NOW.

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donthate2801d ago

Why pay for a streaming service, when you can get the superior experience for a fraction?

PS3 is dirt cheap now, and the games are even cheaper. Why would you want to put up with poor quality video, and input lag when there is a better alternative that cost less?

kingdom182801d ago

Because maybe they don't want to buy a PS3?

Christopher2801d ago

They live in a small living area and don't want unnecessary hardware when just a laptop or the like will do?

They travel a lot?

They can subscribe month at a time when they can play without having to put a ton of money down on hardware and games, which they have to store and manage when they don't play?

*shrugs*

Who cares why. It's an option that doesn't take away from the options available to others.

butchertroll2801d ago

@Kingdom18

You need to pay a subscription for PS Now to play it.

_-EDMIX-_2801d ago

Because it's up to the consumer to choose I don't disagree with you and regards to having the console as opposed to paying for the service butt this service is clearly not made for people like you and I.

Do not try to add your own personal reasoning to the existence of a service for others, many people love thinking this way and you have to do your best to detach your personal feelings. Consider I don't understand people who use GameFly because I prefer to purchase my games that does not mean I don't get the existence of the service, it merely means I personally don't find a use for it.

Clearly someone might want to play one or two Sony titles without actually going out of their way to purchase an entire console to play two games.

Somebody has good enough internet connection and may likely only want to play a few titles to find Value in this I truly believe streaming as a rental option will be a very big thing in the future for all platforms.

donthate2801d ago

As an aside, I didn't mean my comment to question the reasoning for PS Now existence. There are reasons people would do that, if they are willing to put up with the degraded experience.

The comment was meant towards OP whom wanted to get PS Now, and I wanted to suggest getting the console itself instead. It's not clear to my why OP wouldn't want to purchase a Playstation, but still want to play the games?

In fact, it is better to just purchase the console experience wise and likely cheaper than subscribing to a service that isn't very good yet.

Mystogan2801d ago

because it doesn't cost less? last I checked a PS3 doesn't cost $20. And I have to buy all games separately. I'm only going to subscribe for a month or the three month deal sounds good too. I

notachance2801d ago

lo and behold, someone who always used the term 'give customer an option' when talking about xbox suddenly questioning an OPTIONAL service

why do you ask?

because this one is a fanboy, let all people who read this remember the username
oh wait they all already know

rainslacker2801d ago

Maybe because when they're travelling or somewhere other than home they don't want to have to lug around a console system with them?

Perhaps they don't want to expend the cost to buy the console, to simply play the occassional older game?

Perhaps, just because they don't want to?

PS Now video quality isn't poor unless you're on a minimum connection, and then the issues are more about lag. If you're on a recommended or higher connection, the experience is just fine, and no discernable difference between the local play, or the streamed play. The games being offered on PSNow are more than capable of being streamed through the net without compromise. PS4 games would take a hit if they were ever made available, because 1080 images can sometimes clog up a connection...particularly a shared one, and are often throttled.

Loktai2801d ago

Some TVs support PSNOW- for those its a ways to play without having to 1. own the hardware, 2. download
the games individually some of which would cost as much as a months subscription and 3. have to build a collection...

The video quality is not very poor its decent. Thats like saying Netflix is BS because for the cost of Netflix
subscription you can buy a couple blurays.... no netflix isnt bluray quality but its not miserable. Same with PSNOW.

jznrpg2801d ago

It depends on the games, some rpgs are very expensive, plus you can play anywhere. Its not for me but there is a market

nowitzki20042801d ago

Since when is $150 considered dirt cheap?

s45gr322801d ago

Because all PS3 games are available on PS Now. No need to go from store to store looking for PS3 games. PS Now will replace consoles 😋

Orionsangel2800d ago

No room. Few HDMI ports. I can only put so many input switch boxes. No built in streaming either. 720p looks bad these days. Playstation Now should be included with your PS Plus subscription and you should be able to play the games you own on PS3.

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Jburr942801d ago (Edited 2801d ago )

So you're not interested in the PlayStation but you're still going to play its games? And they are only PS3 games and you need good internet to stream. You're better off with the real thing. Now the Xbox games being put on PC via hardware is a different story.

Mystogan2801d ago

I am probably just going to subscribe for a month and play as many as I can. Just so I can try some of the big exclusives it had. If I were to buy a PS3 it would be much more expensive.

game4funz2801d ago

Yes the Xbox games is indeed a different story.
Whyd you bring it up on a Playstation & pc article?

LexHazard792801d ago

This is no different than Xbox games coming to PC.. you guys just wanna act like this doesnt matter. Yeah I get that is older games. But eventually PS4 games gey old too and will make way to PS Now. I don't get what's so hard to understand about it. Whether now or end of generation you can expects those PS4 classics to be there.

_-EDMIX-_2801d ago

Nice. If you could manage to get it with low latency you're going to have the best of both worlds.

pretty soon I'm assuming next Generation they're going to add PlayStation 4 support.

donthate2801d ago

Even with low latency, there is still substantial video artifacts, and you can definitely feel the latency, but if you are okay with that, then this might be for you.

kneon2801d ago

I've only spent maybe 15-20 hours on PS Now, but I never saw any discernable latency. But I have a really good internet connection.

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BattleAxe2801d ago (Edited 2801d ago )

Too bad it's a streaming service.... Game streaming eats up 3-4 times as much bandwidth as YouTube or Netflix, and only half of the games available on PS Now are included with the subscription, while the other half you will still need to rent if you want to play them, pretty stupid.

TwoForce2801d ago

It's Streaming Service.

Drithe2801d ago

Sony had to do this. No one is using this on PS4.

Errorist762801d ago

Oh you'll buy one soon for PSVR, just trust me.

MagicBeanz2801d ago

Why would a person who doesn't want a Playstation want to play Playstation games?

gamerb62801d ago

I'll never buy a PlayStation either but if ps now is reasonably priced, I'll get this on my PC to.

Tobsesan2801d ago

Best thing is -> you dont have to use that horrible ps controller

Bronxs152800d ago

If it works for windows it can work on Xbox. Wouldn't that be awesome. One system to rule them all haha

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crazychris41242801d ago (Edited 2801d ago )

This isnt for me. Even if they did offer PS1 and PS2 games I already have my PS2 hooked up to my TV and it can also play most PS1 games, was playing some Burnout Revenge the other day, game is still fun after all of these years.

joeorc2801d ago (Edited 2801d ago )

@crazychris4124
[This isnt for me. Even if they did offer PS1 and PS2 games I already have my PS2 hooked up to my TV and it can also play most PS1 games, was playing some Burnout Revenge the other day, game is still fun after all of these years]

Well many who already have a PlayStation 3 or 2 or 1or PlayStation TV or PS4, it's really not that important of a functionality except , if say you just want to take along a portable laptop with a dual shock 4 and the adapter..or stream to another TV with like the PlayStation TV.

I mean lugging around a PS4 or PS3 is rather bulky vs a Playstation TV or this solution.

Which both can serve the same purpose. With a PlayStation TV , with its Dual shock 3 or 4 Support it already has access to PlayStation Now.

No need for the USB adapter..but you would need a mobile display , while the laptop allows with the dual shock 4 and this wireless adapter or cable you now can get PlayStation Now on it.

So both ways for taking living room playstation gaming on the go gaming as long as you have internet or something like a PlayStation TV.

So one of the reasons most Likely in reducing support for the PSVita...with this set up not really needed. Since very many did not buy it in North America anyway.

Some gamers for instance want to play PlayStation games , just not support Sony as much with buying a full games console..so this allows those consumers some relief to atleast get some Legacy PlayStation Console games without shelling out for a new PlayStation.

Since its a rental, with no long ter m contracts , they are not letting a system there collect dust instead of playing the system.

s45gr322801d ago

Also for PlayStation gamers like me that my PlayStation consoles no longer work

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Bahamut2801d ago

I don't want it just for the fact that it's streaming. Even the little tiny bit of lag is enough to ruin the game for me. They should stop being dumb about it and download some of the game before running it, that way lag is never an issue. But wtf do I know right?

Ravenor2801d ago

The games aren't running locally, it's streaming everything; inputs, image and sound.

IamTylerDurden12800d ago

Lag was not noticeable at all, even in Sniper Elite.

SegaGamer2801d ago

It's not for me either........yet. It's just not appealing enough for the price. I like the idea of a subscription model, i think it's better for PS Now in the long run, but i can't jump on board with it yet. The subscription doesn't cover all games, a lot of games are still only available for renting. Not being able to play the DLC on these games is another turn off, i'm not paying that much money if i can't play the games in full.

I may one day try it out, but not in it's current state.

yeahright22800d ago

psnow is indeed a great option to play some PS3 games if you don't have a PS3. speaking of, if you do have your PS3, happen to be reading this and don't own mega man 9 and 10 but want them: 2AE9-RNNM-97PD
have fun.

IamTylerDurden12800d ago (Edited 2800d ago )

It's actually very attractive to play any game u want at the drop of a hat. No install or download, no waiting, just pick and play. I was able to go from Ico to Ninja Gaiden 2 to God of War as i pleased, without worrying about waiting or HDD space. It's like having 400 games digitally downloaded on your device/console and neatly organized. No one ever discussed this aspect and for me it is the main attraction. It's fun to try pick a game u haven't played and instantly try t out.

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Blu3_Berry2801d ago (Edited 2801d ago )

Seems like while consoles try to keep things away from other consoles, PC is getting everything. Makes sense though since PC isn't really a direct competitor to consoles as it's an entirely different beast. All devices have their own advantages and disadvantages and it is up to the consumer what they prefer. The only main issue I see people having is if their internet connection can handle it since it is streaming only so everyone's experience is going to vary.

Eonjay2801d ago (Edited 2801d ago )

great point... for me I did build a gaming rig but I just don't like the form factor of the keyboard or playing at a desk. Just not my thing. That said, you are right. However with the adapter supporting the dual shock on PC officially, I might want to give PC gaming another chance.

hells_supernova2801d ago

Use a controller the xbox one controller, xbox elite and now dualshock plus a tonne of others. This excuse is ridiculous. Hook it up to your tv sit back and enjoy more games and functions than any console

SniperControl2801d ago

Been using a DS4 for PC gaming for years using DS4Windows, but hopefully with this adapter, devs start adding native support for there games, PS icons and touchpad would be awesome.

ONESHOTV22801d ago

dude you could have use the ps3 controller with a long usb so you dont have to sit in front of your pc. i personally prefer M&K over controller though

s45gr322801d ago

I play my PC through my hdtv set with a Xbox 360 controller

GhostTurtle2801d ago (Edited 2801d ago )

@SniperControl
several games already use ps4 control setup.
Witcher 3
Black Ops 3
Rocket League

To name a few but I agree with you. Hopefully DS4 can become a standard, or atleast an alternative for most games with this release.

Edit should also add, Ive gone through 2 xbone controllers on PC. Might have something to do with me letting my young (very young. I also use them) son jam on pc (triggers fucking up). Might have something to do with the controllers being dropped from my computer desk to hard wood floor, but for the last 8 months been jammin on my 2013 ps4 controller...no issues. Only issue is the left stick rubber is starting to ware.

Morale of the story, I would much rather DS4 be a standard....

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joeorc2801d ago

@blu3_puls3

[Makes sense though since PC isn't really a direct competitor to consoles ]

Oh really? It's not? Tell that to Microsoft's now unification program..now Xbox live is on Windows 10 PC's , all new Xbox peripherals wireless standard are being directly built into PC manufacturers motherboards.

With Microsoft the Xbox & PC are no longer separate, when Xbox live numbers roll in are they going to separate the windows 10 from the Xbox gold Subscriptions? Or online multiplayer now?

How about SteamOS when valve made steam PC's with its steam controller with big screen mode...

Despite many who still think , that the PC is a separate market now, I disagree , because the evidence points to Microsoft's not makes ng it a separate market any more they are trying their best to turn this game console market into an extension of their Windows OS powered Ecosystem like they have been for decades.

Blu3_Berry2801d ago

Yes you are correct in that part. Corporations are indeed trying to merge the console and PC space closer. However, majority of the consumer have not taken a liken to those ideas myself included. The windows 10 store I hear is a mess in general and cause several other games to not function properly. In my opinion, Microsoft wishes to merge it to expand their business. This does not benefit the consumer as much as it does to them.

The steamOS was a big mistake from the beginning. Who was it marketed towards? If they were trying to get console consumers into the PC space but with a simpler approach, then they failed miserably with the countless number of different steamOS boxes with different hardware. How is the general mass going to know which one to buy?

Like I said, they are trying to merge the console and PC space as a sort of extension, but they have a LONG ways to go before we as the consumer are comfortable in it. They are two different beats. Its like trying to make a Frankenstein hybrid.

game4funz2801d ago (Edited 2800d ago )

Pc gamers have been gaming online since counter strik and earlier. I think their online will be fine.

@blu3
Good point. I guess then the question is if that goofy second will disconnect you from the
ps now servers.

Blu3_Berry2801d ago

Think of it this way, we would be paying to play ps3 games but its like an always online drm and you don't even own it. What if your internet cuts out for a second and then your game crashes, losing all the progress if it didn't save just because of the internet acting goofy for a second.

Hugodastrevas2801d ago

Nice pre-emptive move against emulators, let pc players rent ps3 games all they want!

hells_supernova2801d ago

PS3 emulation is still a while away yet especially at playable frames

Hugodastrevas2801d ago

@killer @donthate
Pirating games too, but steam made it work.

@hells
That's why it's a great time for this.

ONESHOTV22801d ago

i would rather buy cheap copy of a game from the store and then burn it to my rig and use it on a emulator than buy anything from ps now

Hugodastrevas2801d ago

@oneshot
Guess you'll still have to wait for playable ps3 emulators then.

Silly gameAr2801d ago (Edited 2800d ago )

If you already own a PS3, then what's the problem? Why burn a game to your PC when you can just play it on the PS3?

People are always talking about having more options on this site, well this is optional. You don't have to sub to PS Now.

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France Fines Sony for Combating Third-Party PS4 Controllers

PlayStation LifeStyle says: "The French antitrust authority Autorité de la Concurrence has slapped Sony Interactive Entertainment with a fine for taking measures to combat third-party PS4 controllers. In an attempt to fight off counterfeits, Sony implemented technical measures that negatively affected the functioning of third-party controllers, according to the regulator."

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jznrpg112d ago

I never buy 3rd party controllers. They’re usually crappy or too expensive for what they offer

DarXyde112d ago

I feel like the age of crappy third party controllers ended. I might be wrong, but I only ever hear of the high end third party controllers now.

Either way, I feel like people should be able to buy and use these devices, even if they're bad quality.

Sure, it's Sony's box, but no company should do this unless it's some shady device-bricking controller.

Majors112d ago

Wait So Micro$oft gets away with it by disabling 3rd party controllers Whilst Sony gets a fine for only affecting them >?

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PlayStation 4 Controllers - All Color Variations & Limited Editions

The PlayStation 4 offers a wide range of controller variations, encompassing a diverse selection of colors and featuring some unusual and distinct designs.

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darthv72163d ago

Consolevariations.com is a good site. The gamestop ones I added to their database. Cool to see my pics being used in this piece.

Freecs163d ago

Yes thank you for the pictures, this piece is meant for casual players to check out all variation in one place, consolevariations is an awesome website of course especially for hardcore collectors.

gold_drake163d ago

my .mate made me a custom see-through controller and its the best one ive ever seen and had ha

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PlayStation beat Xbox cloud gaming users in 2021, new CMA data indicates

PlayStation dominated cloud gaming users throughout 2021, beating Microsoft's xCloud streaming by over 10%, but Xbox swings back at PlayStation in 2022.

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Nanukas441d ago

Good, i want sony to feel heat. Ordinary people win from good competition.

BehindTheRows441d ago

“Good competition” is not something Microsoft offers often. You should want THEM to feel enough heat to actually do better.

Nanukas441d ago (Edited 441d ago )

Agree. I wish sony would be more afraid of gamepass to get better games on ps+

Obscure_Observer440d ago (Edited 440d ago )

"You should want THEM to feel enough heat to actually do better."

Phil Spencer started to acquire studios back in 2018, after that, Xbox Studios only had 5 studios. Now Xbox has 23 almost 5x more studios. Not to mention third party exclusives like Flight Simulator, Contraband and Project Dragon.

Plus, unlike Sony, Xbox Studios won´t be distracted with things like VR, all of their first party efforts goes towards Xbox first and foremost.

Sony so can expect a much more robust Gamepass in terms of first party and third party exclusives games from Xbox from now on.

Since Sony have less studios and won´t release their games day one on PS+, they better make sure andl deliver high quality games like Ragnarok. Because so far, 2023 hadn´t started well for them with Forspoken.

https://www.videogameschron...

Sony spent millions to secure a AAA third party exclusive game build from the ground up for PS5, not to mention more millions spent on market to be outperformed by a AA game which costs less than half on Steam, had an EPIC day one surprise announcement AND release with ZERO money invested on promotion and marketing.

If that´s not good competition, I don´t know what it is.

BehindTheRows440d ago

@Obscure_Observer

It isn’t.

Obscure_Observer440d ago (Edited 440d ago )

"It isn’t."

Oh yes, it is. You can bet your life that both companies cares about their money and investments.

The simple fact that Sony continues to pay multiple publishers to keep games out of Xbox forever, is nothing but a reaction to Gamepass.

Imo, Sony now fears that once their timed-exclusive contracts ends, those games will be available on Gamepass the moment the said games hits the Xbox platforms.

Sony fears the scenario where gamers realize that it´s not worth to invest in every single game released on Playstation at full $70 once they´ll be getting it for "free" on Gamepass eventually, just like Yakuza, Dragon Quest, Octopath Traveler, Nino Kuni, Persona series and more.

ARK 2 (exclusive on Xbox consoles), S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2( exclusive on Xbox consoles), Flintlock, Wo Long, Atomic Hears, Lies of P, Eiyuden Chronicle, Hollow Knight: Silksong. Minecraft: Legends, MLB 23...

Those are just some of the games that Xbox players will be getting for "free" day one while Playstation gamers will have to pay for all of it.

So at least you´re rich or something, Xbox players will be getting way more NEW games to play than you. That´s just facts.

BehindTheRows440d ago (Edited 440d ago )

@Obscure_Observer

I can bet that one company brings actual competition, isn’t afraid to share losing numbers, and doesn’t buy huge publishers due to said weaknesses. That’s what I can bet.

As a fan of theirs, you should want them to do better and offer more than subscriptions services and unfulfilled promises.

tay8701440d ago (Edited 440d ago )

@obscure. Well Sony can't control 3rd party games quality, but their 1st party certainly trounces MS's. Spiderman 2 is going to a absolutely dominate the holiday season, just like ragnarok did this past holiday season. Sony easily has the best gaming studios out of the big three. It's.not Sony who has to worry about their 1st part output, it is MS.

MIDGETonSTILTS17440d ago

@Obscure: what AAA games would I buy an XsX today to play?

I own a ps5 and XsX, and I don’t know of one game that would have motivated me to buy an XsX ( I bought it to appease my dumb Xbot friends).

I bought a ps5 for Demon Souls (best looking game on consoles), Returnal (top 10 game of all time for me), and Dualsense upgrades for shooters (completely changes R6 for me).

So, can you illustrate how XsX is competing? I liked HiFi Rush a lot, High on Life too, but neither make we happy about the $500 I sunk into the hardware to play them.

Mr_cheese440d ago

Obscurer, you're saying an awful lot without talking much sense at all.

VR isn't a distraction, neither does it take games away from playstation. Sony have been building and harnessing studios just for this while working on their 1st party none VR titles.

Microsoft is fully committed to gamepass and that's fine for them and those that like to game that way. It will be an even better product if Microsoft can nail their 1st party games.

What I'd hate to see are more moves like the Activision and Bethesda purchases and attempts because it destroys the gaming ecosystem. I'd say the same for Sony as well because once the ball is rolling, they'll all start buying and diving gaming.

Obscure_Observer440d ago (Edited 440d ago )

"I can bet that one company brings actual competition, isn’t afraid to share losing numbers, and doesn’t buy huge publishers due to said weaknesses. That’s what I can bet."

Unfortunately for you, MS or Nintendo aren´t forced to play by yours or Sony´s rules. Fyi, Sony used to buy publishers back in the day. The only reason they aren´t doing it now is simply because they can´t.

As it is, Sony already owns 14.09% of Kadokawa´s shares while Tencent acquired 16% of the company's shares, which means 1/3 of the entire company ownership.

The only reason why Tencent owns more than Sony is because Sony couldn´t pay more for it. So spare me from this "victim complex" bs defense for Sony.

Phil acted as the "nice guy" for too long. To the point where stupid fanboys were all happy when Xbox acquired new studios and publishers, because the idiots were under the illusion that all future Xbox games would become multiplatform and be released on Playstation.

Yeah, they were stupid to the point of thinking that MS would turn into a third party developer for Playstation.

Reality hits hard and here we are. Now that they KNOW those games aren´t coming to Playstation, all that they can do now is cry and moan over games paid and developed by Microsoft to not be on their platform of choice.

They think they´re entitled to have anything and everything otherwise it´s not good competition.

Phil Spencer won´t stop. Be the Activision/Blizzard deal approved or not, he can just go after a single studio like CDPR for example and you´ll be here crying all the same.

I don´t care if Sony or Nintendo buys SquareEnix, From Software or even SEGA tomorrow. Because I have no problem buying products from those companies if they have the games I want. I care about games first and foremost. So don´t expect me to be on your sad place complaining about big a$$ companies running their business as they see fit.

Lightning77440d ago

"You should want THEM to feel enough heat to actually do better."

But when they do attempt to do better ppl complain about it.

BehindTheRows440d ago

@Lightning77

What genuine attempts have people complained about?

Lightning77439d ago

With the whole Bethesda thing. There was article on here not too long ago talking about how Bethesda investment will pay off for MS. The whole comment section everyone was whining about how MS was taking games away. So when MS competes everyone here complains on here. No matter what MS hurts feelings. It's quite funny actually.

BehindTheRows438d ago

@Lightning77

In other words, outside of publisher acquisitions, they have not really attempted to compete.

And "whining" happens on both sides, so I hope you are just as entertained when people bitch and moan about moves Sony makes.

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Crows90440d ago

Ps+ extra already has better games than gamepass. Just look at the highest scoring games...ps extra has more of them.

Obscure_Observer440d ago

Lol. What a joke.

PS+ relies on old games. Gamepass not only has day one first party games but also day one third party as well. Even from Sony. XD

S2Killinit440d ago (Edited 440d ago )

Exactly. “Day one” is a buzz word that makes these guys think they have a better line up but it has not amounted to much. If you look at what they have at any given time on their service its not that rosy. Not to mention “day one” also exists on PS plus just not for the first party AAA story games (which is fine w me as long as they continue making the hits).

Check out their list of day one releases for all the years they had gamepass. Its a joke.

Crows90440d ago (Edited 440d ago )

@obscure

I'd take good old games then new Bad games. Besides that wasn't his point and that has nothing to do with what I claimed. The op said that they should offer better games but they already offer better games. He did not say new games. Or even New Quality games. But to your point, I know that game pass lovers do enjoy their day one bad or mediocre games. It's all about value with you guys and not quality

GamingSinceForever440d ago

Some are going ape shit over Hi-Fi Rush but completely forgot about the Tokyo Wire dud the same developer last released. My point being there are hits and misses.

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Obscure_Observer440d ago (Edited 440d ago )

" It's all about value with you guys and not quality"

Lol. Your false narrative didn´t aged well.

All Metacritic scores for day one first party games
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Ori and the Will of the Wisps 92 on Metacritic
Flight Simulator 90 on Metacritic
Forza Horizon 5 92 on Metacritic
Halo Infinite 87 on Metacritic
Grounded 85 on Metacritic
Pentiment 87 on Metacritic
Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition 87 on Metacritic
Hi-Fi Rush 88 on Metacritic

And that´s only from first party games/IPs on Xbox series consoles.

So much for your "quality vs quantity" BS narrative.

Oh, and we "Gamepass Lovers" also love old quality games as well. I also can give you a large list of high quality third party on Gamepass. Just ask. ;)

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GamingSinceForever440d ago

@Obscure_Observer… Forspoken was not a 1st party game from Sony nor should it be treated as such. Square Enix will comeback nicely with FFXVI I’m sure.

Besides Sony is entitled to some misses here and there because they actually take chances on new titles and release them regularly.

Bu the time Spiderman 2 releases everyone will have forgotten all about this terrible start you’re claiming.

Crows90440d ago

They're so anxious to try to nail Sony on something that they'll even bring up third party developers not under Sony. Oh look this time's exclusive that wasn't developed by a Sony studio was bad so Sony doesn't know how to do good games.

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Obscure_Observer440d ago

"@Obscure_Observer… Forspoken was not a 1st party game from Sony nor should it be treated as such. Square Enix will comeback nicely with FFXVI I’m sure."

In no moment I said it´s a first party game. Both Forspoken and FFXVI are exclusive Playstation 5 games which Sony invested large sums of money to secure to their platform. Just like the original Spiderman from Insomniac. (which till this day Sony fans treat it like a first party/IP)

So it´s pretty obvious if the game fails, Sony also fails and loses tons of money which could had been invested on first party games.

"Besides Sony is entitled to some misses here and there because they actually take chances on new titles and release them regularly."

True.

"Bu the time Spiderman 2 releases everyone will have forgotten all about this terrible start you’re claiming."

Also true. The same can be said about FFXVI, imo.

Abear21440d ago

The leader, Nintendo, doesn’t care what the competition does.

Obscure_Observer440d ago

"The leader, Nintendo, doesn’t care what the competition does."

Couldn´t agree more

BehindTheRows440d ago

The Switch is leading the PS5 because it launched three years prior. PS4 won last gen is all forms (money made, units sold, software totals).

No hate for Nintendo though, as they are another company who actually puts out quality games in high numbers, but just a little perspective.

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Orchard441d ago

“In 2022, Microsoft took the lead with 60-70% of total MAUs”

From 20-30% up to 60-70%? That’s some crazy growth. Probably thanks to Fortnite.

SurgicalMenace441d ago

That's what's up, young fella. You feel better now?

The Wood441d ago

All the other stats dont matter. Especially the ones where ps is tearing xbox a new one

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Obscure_Observer440d ago

“In 2022, Microsoft took the lead with 60-70% of total MAUs”

Probably one of reasons why Sony won´t return Activision´s calls.

BehindTheRows440d ago

Oh, yeah, THAT must be it….

Outside_ofthe_Box440d ago

You're not asking for numbers now, I noticed? 🤣

Orchard440d ago (Edited 440d ago )

Oops, somebody didn't read the article.

This isn't a "YoY increase". It's market share, so we know they had 60-70% of the streaming market.

MIDGETonSTILTS17440d ago

That’s why we game: to celebrate YoY growth!

Three cheers for first-party content-starving fueling third party max’s and subscriptions.

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Tacoboto440d ago

What a clickbait headline. Why mention 2021, when the tides turned in 2022 for the obvious reason of one company making the Cloud service one of their biggest marketing pushes throughout the entire year while the other company was able to promote the games they had coming out?

And it's imprudent to suggest crazy growth when we only know proportions - did Xbox grow its proportion by attracting from the competitors' bases, did their marketing pay off and attract new users, or did cloud gamers on competitors just not play as much? The MAU figures don't point to shifts as significant as the Cloud proportions do, and Microsoft's lack of raw subscriber numbers that they happily boasted about in 2021 is telling too.