Yep exactly.

*stinks

This is the second time directors have been fired mid stream, and everyone had to scramble to recover due to Queen Kathleen. She does NOT know how to make a film. She coatailed her way to her current role and she is frankly not qualified. Just because she got coffee for Spielberg, and Lucas does not make her a good film maker.

She is CANCER and needs to be CUT OUT.

Uh. It's been one week.

Budget includes marketing. I don't know where that comes from, I have heard it so many times on here that I can't place where it originated.

It's weird. I think it is usually used by the "journos" that collectively decide what are failures, despite box office success.

Consider that Solo is sitting 20 million behind Ready Player One, which no one said failed, and 70 million behind a quiet place, which has had a month and a half head start. It also opened bigger than both.

@thorstein,

Lol, maybe you should know what you're talking about before commenting.

Production budget does NOT include marketing. You probably hear about it so much on here because it's 100% true. The $250M+ or $300M+ numbers are for the PRODUCTION budget. The reason it was so expensive is because they reshot 80% of the film.

Ready Player One had a production budget of about $175M . . . $100M less than Solo did.

Solo will almost certainly gross more than Ready Player One did in the US. Ready Player One is at around $135M domestic. Solo will likely end around $200M Domestic.

However worldwide is a completely different ballgame. Ready Player One is sitting at close to $450M worldwide and Solo is set to end around $150M worldwide . . . a difference of $300M. In fact, Ready Player One made more overseas than Solo will make overall and it was substantially cheaper to make.

Ready Player one had a production budget of around $175M and likely a marketing budget under $100M. That's $250-275M total. Domestically the film is sitting around $135 and they'll get about 60% of that . . . so around $80M. Worldwide the film is sitting at $450M and they may get about 40% of that . . . That's $180M. So in total the film is set to make them around $260M on a $250-275M budget . . . right around the break even point. It's certainly not a success, but it didn't really fail either.

Originally Solo's budget was likely around $200M or so, but then they hired a new director, recast a character, and reshot 80% of the film. The production budget is now reported to be $250M+ or even $300M+. Marketing is likely a bit more than Ready Player One. Marketing + Production is probably in the $400-450M range. The film is likely going to end around $200M domestic, which will make them $120M. Worldwide the film is looking at like $150M, which will get them around $60M. In total the film will earn them about $180M on a $400-450M budget. That means the film is on track to lose around $220-270M, which would make it the biggest box office bomb in history.

Bringing A Quiet Place into it shows you have a complete and utter lack of understanding about the whole situation. A Quiet Place had a budget of just $17M. That's less than *one fifteenth* of Solo's budget. That's an insane difference. The general rule of thumb is you spend another half the production budget on marketing. It's likely the film's marketing was around $10M. (Though they may have spent more after the film started doing well). A Quiet Place is currently around $180M domestic, which would earn around $110M. Worldwide it's made around $130M, which would make them around $50M. That means the film has already earned $160M on a production + marketing budget of less than $30M. That's a massive success for such a low budget film.

It has nothing to do with film journalists "collectively deciding" what films are failures. If anything many sites are dancing around just how bad the film is doing. Not only was the opening weekend $50-70M shy of predictions, the box office is dropping much faster than anticipated. Solo is on track to, at the very least, become one of the biggest box office bombs in history.

"Lol, maybe you should know what you're talking about before commenting. "

And we're done. Another internet expert here to enlighten everyone on how things worked because he "googled" it or found it on Wikipedia. Gee, those sources can't be right.

Budget includes marketing whether you think it does or not. Thus ends the conversation with the internet expert. Enjoy your expertise, expert. "Lol, maybe you should know what you're talking about before commenting. "

ROFLMAO!

Maybe you should talk to someone in production before making a comment.

Ready Player One made $300 more than Solo will overseas. A Quiet Place had less than one fifteenth of the budget.

“There’s a fluidity to Donald and Billy Dee’s [portrayal of Lando’s] sexuality,”

“I mean, I would have loved to have gotten a more explicitly LGBT character into this movie. I think it’s time, certainly, for that, and I love the fluidity ― sort of the spectrum of sexuality that Donald appeals to and that droids are a part of.”

“He doesn’t make any hard and fast rules. I think it’s fun,”

From Lawrence Kasdan^

That's a far cry from "his ONLY response was he shrugged his shoulders and said sure"

Plus you've got this from Donald Glover:

"There’s so many things to have sex with. I mean, serious. I didn’t think that was that weird. Yeah, he’s coming on to everybody. I mean, yeah, whatever. He’s like having like a ’70s swing — yeah. It just didn’t seem that weird to me ’cause I feel like if you’re in space it’s kind of like, the door is open! It’s like, no only guys or girls. No, it’s anything. This thing is literally a blob. Are you a man or a woman? Like, who cares? Have good time out here."