He's involved because Gordon is investigating his parents murder, he won't have a role outside of that. At most, I assume he'll headline news or such regarding the Wayne enterprise in some way.

A Batman show pre-Batman sounds awesome dude cry me a river.

"They would have done better having a batman series during the time frame of batman but centered on gordon"

You mean sorta like the Dark knight trilogy?

"couldnt u just have made a cop drama without even envolving gotham..."

There's like one hundred of those on TV right now. Couldn't you just, you know watch one of those? Being a bit selfish here don't ya think?

"then FREAKN USE BATMAN and the universe... "

Batman literally just had the most successful cb movie trilogy in history and will get a new trilogy after his appearance in Man of Steel 2 and The Justice League. Also there's 3 (soon 4) very successful video games and a ton of recent Batman centric animated movies. We aren't getting starved for the character dude... Quit whinning.

"dont just make some dumb past thing that no one gives a crap about."

It's actually getting some positive reactions from the "first looks" so0oo0o0o i wouldn't say "no one".

Yes dude. It's something new. Mixing column A with column B. Sounds very promising. It's leading to the events of "Batman". Using Gordon, a very great character. As a Batman fan i can't wait to see what they can do (If done right). I could care less who else is doing what on TV.

"And when i mean centered on gordon.. i mean dont even envolve or have any scenes with batman... keep him in the shadows like a ghost."

And who says we won't ever get there?

"Its not that I want more batman... again u missed the point there. THe point is i want them to do something GOOD with gotham.. not another cop drama"

and

"And when i mean centered on gordon.. i mean dont even envolve or have any scenes with batman..."

Ok so you want

A). Not involving Batman BUT involving Gotham.
B). Involving Gordon.
C). Not police centric...

Seems to me buddy that even you don't know what you want.

"What made batman and gotham good as a whole is the rogue gallery of villains..."

Agreed. You know what made the first Terminator movie great? Kyle Reese/Micheal Biehn. Terminator 2 was still great without because he was never intended to be in it. The universe was big enough to go on without him. *hint* *hint*

"What am i supposed to do thank them for trying to cash in on the name batman without actually envolving anything that makes the batman comics great?"

No, you should go complain on the internet & argue a jumbled point with a complete stranger. There's over 70 years worth of Batman comics, live-action movies, animated series/movies and video games fitting YOUR description of the ideal Batman story. This is ONE show. ONE. I'll repeat myself, being a bit selfish here don't ya think?

"Your the one who sounds selfish. Seems like you want to take the gotham name for yourself but not include thigns that other people want in it.."

Whaaaaaaaat? That's the point i'm defending from you! You said what YOU want and SHOULD be. And i said the Batman universe is big enough to make so many different things out of. *FACEPALM* Also what does this mean,

"Seems like you want to take the gotham name for yourself"

You realise i'm not making the show right? I don't own any rights to anything Batman related. Are you listening to yourself? O_-