"Wrath of Kahn is the general audiences most basic touch point. And so you can see echoes of Wrath in the first movie and certainly there are echoes of it in this movie. For us, Wrath was always the best version of the characters being who they really were fully. Kirk and Spock and Bones and everyone are sort of their most self-actualised versions. And they’re tested by a very personal human thing. And that’s the kind of thing we always strive for, both in our movies and in any movie you want that dynamic."