i guess we could call this the christopher nolan effect... will see in due time if it gets old.

EVERY time I talk to an actual Superman fan about this idea, they go absolutely insane. "Superman isn't like that! Not everything needs to be dark!"

I'm not huge on Superman, but even I see it doesn't need to be that way. I was furious when we all thought Spider-man would be that way....

This is totally the wrong path for Supes. His eternal hope in humanity is his best quality. That's why him and Batman have a frosty relationship. Batman has zero hope for humanity. God I feel nerdy.

So... Batman?

I wouldnt mind if it was like All-Star Superman but i doubt it.

They need to add real villians I dobt want General Zodd I wanted Brainiac or even Doomsday

i think it would be better if superman himself wasnt dark but the tone of the movie was darker

I've always thought Superman Returns got treated a little harshly. I thought it was a solid direction.

Superman does love humanity but this was taught to him and it continues to be taught to him (by his father Jor-El) even as a man (and Superman). Many people tend to forget Superman is arrogant, he knows he cant score a touchdown "every time he touches the football" He knows he is invulnerable to pain and diseases. Why not rule? Why the disguises.
If any of you have seen the directors cut of the original Superman movie these are questions he wrestles with constantly and Jor-El was prepared for such things.
His relationship with Batman is frosty (as another poster said) because he does not approve of his methods.
Why hide behind a mask? Why the vigilante methods? Why only attack at night? Why use fear tactics? Why operate above the law and not within the law?
This makes for good drama and good sales. But if you look at the characters a little more closely I don't think they are that different from one another.
Sure of is an alien and one is human, one has powers and one does not, but fundamentally they are almost the same.
To my knowledge I've never seen Batman or Superman lie to anyone. TO my knowledge They both have secret identities to protect the ones they love and care for. I just feel that Batman tends to be more prepared because he has noting else to depend on but his wits and his intelligence. Where as Superman can get cocky because of his abilities.
Which is why Luthor makes such a great nemesis.
We will see the Nolan effect for many years to come, because what he has demonstrated is that no matter how fantastic the subject matter is, if you ground it in realism, then the movie can be viewed by adults (by adults I mean fathers & grandfathers) as well as the core fans. Which equals box office sales.
Little footnote, my dad 91 would never had seen any Batman. If he even sniffed anything outlandish in a movie he would bypass it. The Nolan movies, all three, he saw in the theaters, he loved them and fully understood the plot and what was happening.
In his lifetime that's never happened to him.

a more realistic side of superman must be represented and it is about time we are going to experience a superman movie we craved for. the nolan effect will be here to stay and im happy they injected that philosophy to the new superman movie.